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  • bluesilver
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2018
    • 5

    .308 reloading

    hello , I'm a semi beginner reloader and was reading in my lyman book at a reloading powder called accurate 2015, they have a load for a .150 gr sp witch I will try , but my question is how good of a powder is 2015? I know its a fast powder and the book has a lot of data for IMR -4064 and IMR-4895 I do know that the 2015 is a faster burning powder , should I reload the heavier weight bullets or will that fast burning powder cause pressure issues..?
    I try to go at with at least min if not slightly under min recommended loads, and what would be a good starting load if I use the 2015? my rifle I'm using is a Mossberg mvp 7.62 nato stamped bolt gun believe its a 18.5 inch barrel
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    Sailormilan2
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 3466

    First of all, I have no experience with AA 2015, but I have reloaded for a few years.
    Generally speaking, the fastest powder that is usually used in the .308 Win is IMR3031. Some people like it, and get good groups with it, though it's a stick powder and doesn't meter all that well.
    Usually, with heavier bullets one uses slower powders for the best performance. The military used IMR4895 for its match ammo in the 30-06 and the .308/7.62NATO for years, though there are reports that they have recently switch IMR4064 and others for their match/sniper ammo.
    Since you didn't specify what type of rifle you are using, I will assume that it is a bolt gun, rather than a gas gun(M1A/M1 Garand/AR10).
    There was some discussion about this very topic here:

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    • #3
      JackEllis
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 2731

      Originally posted by Sailormilan2
      The military used IMR4895 for its match ammo in the 30-06 and the .308/7.62NATO for years, though there are reports that they have recently switch IMR4064 and others for their match/sniper ammo.
      Nice to know. When I couldn't find H4350 for my .30-06, I started using IMR4064.

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      • #4
        scotty99
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2009
        • 1184

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        • #5
          pennstater
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 4660

          I agree with scotty99 here. 2015 looks to be for lighter bullets; 130gr and lighter. Why 2015, when there are better suited powders for your .308.
          IMR4064, either 4895's or Varget. All these will work better than 2015 with 150's and up.

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          • #6
            J-cat
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2005
            • 6626



            2015 is equivalent to 8208 which is excellent for 150’s in the 308. Are you trying to achieve the most velocity and are running out of room in the case?

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            • #7
              smoothy8500
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3846

              I've used Accurate AA2495 and AA2520 with good results. Accurate's reload data shows AA2015 has a wide range of uses, just not familiar with that powder since there are other choices. I've attached the current load data. If 2015 is what you have, then follow Lyman's and Accurate's suggestions.

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              Last edited by smoothy8500; 03-20-2018, 7:21 AM.

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              • #8
                RestrictedColt
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2017
                • 773

                If there is published data for the combination it should be safe and there should be no reason to load it below min data. In some cases going below min. can create a hazard. Unless there's a good reason to use a powder that might not be ideal just go with one that's better suited.

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                • #9
                  micro911
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 2346

                  I use Sierra Match King 168 grain HPBT bullets, Federal or Lake City Match brass, Wolf Large Rifle primers, and IMR 4064 powder. It is the best combination after 1 1/2 years of experiment with many other combination.

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                  • #10
                    17+1
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 2847

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                    • #11
                      divingin
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 2522

                      Originally posted by bluesilver
                      hello , I'm a semi beginner reloader and was reading in my lyman book at a reloading powder called accurate 2015, they have a load for a .150 gr sp witch I will try , but my question is how good of a powder is 2015? I know its a fast powder and the book has a lot of data for IMR -4064 and IMR-4895 I do know that the 2015 is a faster burning powder , should I reload the heavier weight bullets or will that fast burning powder cause pressure issues..?
                      Why do you have the book if you're going to second guess what's in it? You likely won't have pressure issues if you stay within the published data, barring some other unforeseen problem (with the rifle, reloading practices, whatever.) Venture outside, and you're into unknown (or at least unverified) territory.

                      I try to go at with at least min if not slightly under min recommended loads, and what would be a good starting load if I use the 2015?
                      Good starting load is the starting load printed in your manual (granted, some books use "Starting Load" as a name, others "Minimum Load".) Conversely, a good max load is the max load also printed in the manual, at least until you can figure out pressure signs on your own.

                      I don't use AA powders, so have no guidance for you there. Use your Lyman guide and the Accurate guide, and you should be OK. Don't start second guessing that data until you understand what those second guesses may get you into.

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                      • #12
                        bluesilver
                        Junior Member
                        • Mar 2018
                        • 5

                        sorry I did say what rifle I was using, I did a edit but idk if you can read it ,
                        Mossberg mvp 7.62 nato stamped bolt gun believe its a 18.5 inch barrel
                        1 in 10 twist, the store only had the 2015 and not the other 2 in stock so I figured I would try it, starting with 37 grains , book calls for a min recommended of 38 to I believe 42 or 44

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                        • #13
                          J-cat
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2005
                          • 6626

                          What brass are you using? What brass is listed in your book?

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                          • #14
                            bluesilver
                            Junior Member
                            • Mar 2018
                            • 5

                            book says Remington cases I made some using HSM

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                            • #15
                              J-cat
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2005
                              • 6626

                              Are the HSM cases heavier or lighter?

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