243 non lead

[aspenvalley]

[Dark Hunt]

Barnes tests their 85 grain TSX and 80 grain TTSX in 10" twist Bartlein barrels.

Either will work for deer.

[FLIGHT762]

Barnes 80 Gr. TTSX should work. I've found the TTSX is accurate. I have used 270 110 TTSX and 308 168 TTSX. Both are accurate bullets.

I would go with Barnes before looking at other non tox bullets.

[aspenvalley]

I was looking at Barnes. Some of the bullets list a twist rate in the specs but most do not.

I am concerned that with the copper bullets I may be just too long to stabilize the bullet. I will give one of these a shot.

[Divernhunter]

Barnes will state what twist is needed if it is a fast twist.
Use a lighter weight Barnes TTSX bullet than you would a lead core bullet and you will get as good of terminal performance. You will also want a lot of bullet jump and no crimp. Seat them so the top relief groove is just showing and use max loads for best accuracy and terminal performance.

There are several points to remember when using Barnes(and other mono) bullets. If you want some help PM me. I have a lot of experience with them. Taken quite a number of animals with them here and in Africa.

[Svashtar]

Barnes will state what twist is needed if it is a fast twist.
Use a lighter weight Barnes TTSX bullet than you would a lead core bullet and you will get as good of terminal performance. You will also want a lot of bullet jump and no crimp. Seat them so the top relief groove is just showing and use max loads for best accuracy and terminal performance.

There are several points to remember when using Barnes(and other mono) bullets. If you want some help PM me. I have a lot of experience with them. Taken quite a number of animals with them here and in Africa.

[Divernhunter]

^^^ The "normal" thinking is get the bullet close but that is WRONG with Barnes, Swift, Nosler AB bullets. Seating them deeper shrinks groups a lot.
There are a few other things that are important when using Barnes (and other mono) bullets and I spent 3 years sorting them all out.

My 257W with 100gr TTSX bullets has a bit more than1/4" jump and will put 5+ bullets into one hole when I do my job and follow the 4 rules for Barnes.

[stevec223]

I have always started with the col that barnes publishes and tests with... I have always found moa or better loads using Barnes suggested Col... I always start at the bottom of the powder charge and work up in .5 grain increments... This has usually lead to just about max powder loads for the sweet spot... Except for 243win and 62gr Barnes VG and Varget,,, and 85gr TSX using IMR4451.... You just never know so start low and work your way up for your rifle ...
Cheers....

[rick1085]

My considerable experience with Copper in general is;
Seat em deep
Run em fast

My best Copper .243 load that happens to work very well in 6 rifles Ive tried it in.
Barnes 85 TSX
Laupa brass
Fed 210 GM primer
42.0g IMR4550 (Start at 40 and work up)
Seated at.50 to .150 off lands (You'll need to adjust as needed)
My COL happens to work out to 2.660

Hornady lock-n- load OAL gage will greatly help with seating depth.

Good luck!


BTW:Copper sucks

[TexasJackKin]

Barnes will state what twist is needed if it is a fast twist.
Use a lighter weight Barnes TTSX bullet than you would a lead core bullet and you will get as good of terminal performance. You will also want a lot of bullet jump and no crimp. Seat them so the top relief groove is just showing and use max loads for best accuracy and terminal performance.

There are several points to remember when using Barnes(and other mono) bullets. If you want some help PM me. I have a lot of experience with them. Taken quite a number of animals with them here and in Africa.

Just PMed you, asking about .30-06 Non-toxic.