Why i wont buy ammo from LAX Ammo

[sacrvrrat]

If we stand up to the exploitive ones our demand will be met by some enterprising outfit who is not so eager to squeeze every last $$$ from us. If we keep nodding and paying we will keep getting milked.

[Deedle]

Nothing exploitive about this.

Someone needs a subscription to a dictionary.

It's absolutely their right to run their business as they see fit, and it's absolutely my right to go to Walmart in the future. In the past I avoided Walmart and was their customer. Is the new policy worth that change to them? As a single customer it won't make much difference except to me, but if enough people exert this sort of wallet voting behavior, they will adapt to survive or not survive.

If not enough people care they will continue to use these sort of tactics.

I have enough ammo for a few years anyway, and literally hundreds of pounds of propellant and my primer stock is into the 6 digits. I'm going to be OK.

[Deedle]

No, I'm mad at them for making business choices that inconvenience me and telling me it's a feature. They run both a retail store and a mail order business. We are now required to get ammo from a retailer, but they are unwilling to deliver their mail order ammo, even for a fee, to their store front.

This means that to buy ammo from their mail order store, I have to involve another local ammo store in the transaction. That's not happening.

As extra credit, please show me 3 mail order companies who also have retail outlets, who have a policy like this. It's vanishingly rare as far as I know, and probably for good reason. A person coming to the physical store to pick up goods is (drum roll) now in the store. Businesses spend a lot of money to accomplish what a simple change of policy would have people paying to do.

I used to buy LAX ammo online and then burn it up in the LAX range. I don't see me buying much from them in future.

[sacrvrrat]

Someone needs a subscription to a dictionary.



It's absolutely their right to run their business as they see fit, and it's absolutely my right to go to Walmart in the future. In the past I avoided Walmart and was their customer. Is the new policy worth that change to them? As a single customer it won't make much difference except to me, but if enough people exert this sort of wallet voting behavior, they will adapt to survive or not survive.



If not enough people care they will continue to use these sort of tactics.



I have enough ammo for a few years anyway, and literally hundreds of pounds of propellant and my primer stock is into the 6 digits. I'm going to be OK.

I an in awe of your ammo stash. Thanks for sharing.

Is this a new policy by them? Sounds like it was their policy prior to the new law.

Of course you should decided where you want to shop covered that in my first post. Just trying to find the exploitation.




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[LAKevin]

So you're upset that LAX was passing on the savings to online customers? Running a retail store front cost a lot of money things like retail space is more expensive than warehouse, increased insurance cost because of public access, different business license requirments, additional merchandising costs, and other "hidden" costs that a mail order business doesn't have. I guess you can't make everyone happy.

I agree! Also, I think the website runs as a completely separate business entity and the LAX stores are all family owned and run on a different agenda. I get why some people are upset, but this is something that is done with generally most online stores (clothing, ammo, etc) because of more competition and less overhead. People can always make the choice to purchase from other places like Walmart, but I think it is more beneficial to a city to support local businesses.

[nedro]

I purchased ammo from LAX ammo on several occasions, all via online. They have decent prices.... online. Lets overlook the fact that Cali customers cannot purchase online anymore unless we have special permits. Once I had a buddy tell me hey im going to LAX to pick up some ammo, he asked me if I wanted to go. So I looked up ammo online for what i wanted from there and looked at prices. OK, i was ready. But when we showed up to purchase ammo, the prices were different then online. It was more expensive to buy in store even with shipping included. I decided to pass on the ammo just on principle. While LAX ammo actually states prices are different and use the reasoning that they pay higher overhead for the local store and that is included into local walk in sales. That is just poor business practice. If I go online to Best buy, I can buy a tv for the same price online as in store, I can choose to go in and pick it up or get it delivered with only the cost of shipping being the difference. The fact that LAX ammo always cared to save money to those buying online as opposed to everyone across the board just irks me. They wont event state on their website what their local prices are, just that they might be different (meaning more). How much more? Whats the point of sending me your mailers with prices for ammo I cant buy anymore anyway. NO i wont be driving to LAXOC either or any other one of their spots to purchase ammo to be delivered to another FFL that will receive it. Not while the prices are different (higher) and not advertised. Ill spend my money elsewhere. Unsubscribe from lax newsletter. click.

End of rant. Now to enjoy my coffee.

Most stores are exactly like LAX Ammo.
Best Buys will be out of business shortly.
Just to be Joe Friday about it.

[Deedle]

I an in awe of your ammo stash. Thanks for sharing.

Is this a new policy by them? Sounds like it was their policy prior to the new law.

Of course you should decided where you want to shop covered that in my first post. Just trying to find the exploitation.

This has always been their policy as far as I know, however the new law makes it impossible to shop LAX online without then going to a competitor store to pick up the goods. That's just silly, I won't do it.

I believe they are not displeased with the laws that enforce the flow of ammo to be restricted online, much like Best Buy wouldn't mind Amazon being cut out of the electronics business via delivery.

Most stores are exactly like LAX Ammo.
Best Buys will be out of business shortly.
Just to be Joe Friday about it.

On the other hand Amazon has been opening drop sites that they will deliver to locally and people can pick up goods, and they are buying up/opening storefronts to sell and accept deliveries. They seem to be doing OK. I don't believe a business succeeding or failing hinges on this specific policy alone, but drawing customers to the store is generally a desired outcome.

[bob.dakeelstripe]

So here is my 2 cents....

LAX is selling online to customers well outside of there local market.

DO they care is the make one cent over there total cost if there selling to the east coast a place they never plan to put a brick and mortor store. One cent a round is one cent they earn they would never get so there really making pennies on the dollar. If they charged that price locally they would be out of business and how would that serve you?

I played on Amazon for 3 months

I pat 74.00 for a product and sell it for 160.00 . My shipping is 15 bucks from AK to west coast.

Now Amazon race to zero sells it 145.00 and charges 4.95 shipping.

So I would Eat 25 bucks of the shipping right off the top and another 10 dollar loss from shipping Amazon fees were around another 20 bucks and I had to have a person manage it ...

I made $12.00 a unit.


People ***** about the cost they want free shipping and to recive it in 2 days !

We have Wal Marted Home Depot and Costco our selves to the this numb state of Almost free by tomarrow.

Go into business or better yet try and manufacture something and stay in business...


I'm a small business and I get pretty fuzzed up over this mentality quickly ...

Sorry for the rant


Bob

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[Deedle]

So here is my 2 cents....

LAX is selling online to customers well outside of there local market.

DO they care is the make one cent over there total cost if there selling to the east coast a place they never plan to put a brick and mortor store. One cent a round is one cent they earn they would never get so there really making pennies on the dollar. ....

That seems to assume the business has infinite resources to use in the pursuit of business opportunities. The reality generally is that the highest margin opportunities should be pursued before spending resources on the lower margin opportunities.

You actually argued this yourself: That's why you stopped the $12 a unit business, right?

[bob.dakeelstripe]

That seems to assume the business has infinite resources to use in the pursuit of business opportunities. The reality generally is that the highest margin opportunities should be pursued before spending resources on the lower margin opportunities.

You actually argued this yourself: That's why you stopped the $12 a unit business, right?

Many reasons actually but that is certainly one ....

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[tanks]

Most stores are exactly like LAX Ammo.
Best Buys will be out of business shortly.
Just to be Joe Friday about it.

A lot of stores that have an online presence do offer in store pick up at the same price. Lowe's, Sears etc..

[bob.dakeelstripe]

Lowes Sears homedepot wall Mart are also nation wide. LAX is mom m pop compared. LAX is also doing business solely in CA except for online.

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[midniterider66]

[Deedle]

Lowes Sears homedepot wall Mart are also nation wide. LAX is mom m pop compared. LAX is also doing business solely in CA except for online.

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Begs the question if we can assume that's cause or effect.

Also, hooray, I think I finally got to use 'begs the question' correctly!