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  • #61
    97F1504RAD
    Calguns Addict
    • Dec 2008
    • 6315

    Originally posted by rice_man
    The way I read the responses from Double Tap and American Marksman seems to me like they are looking for Dealers/Distributers. We might need more clarification there for collectors. So they will ship to collectors (FF03) but they are looking for dealers as well or are they thinking that as FFL03 holders we can act as dealers (which of course we can not)?
    Doubletap is good to go. I replied to Mike as I interpreting it the same way and wanted to make sure he knew I was just an individual NOT a dealer and was looking to purchase for personal use only and he relied that was fine and he looked forward to doing business with me.

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    • #62
      lweinlan
      Member
      • Jan 2007
      • 170

      American Marksman confirmed that they will ship:

      01-15-18
      Yes, we will ship to those individuals. We will keep copies of the licenses on file.



      Thanks.

      Chad Ueding

      Corporate Operations Manager



      American Marksman, LLC

      10404 Essex Court, Ste. 442

      Omaha, NE 68114

      Office: (402) 763-4885

      Cell: (402) 740-6012

      Email: chad@ammarkammo.com


      Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 10:38 AM
      To: Chad Ueding <chad@ammarkammo.com>
      Subject: Re: RE: Important California Residents/Dealers Notice



      Hi Chad,



      could you please confirm that your company will ship ammunition directly to FFL03 + California Certificate of Eligibility holders ?

      FFL 03 individuals are not dealers and can not resell ammunition.



      thanks

      I am going to email American Marksman to clarify.


      The way I read the responses from Double Tap and American Marksman seems to me like they are looking for Dealers/Distributers. We might need more clarification there for collectors. So they will ship to collectors (FF03) but they are looking for dealers as well or are they thinking that as FFL03 holders we can act as dealers (which of course we can not)?

      Quote:
      Greetings,

      At American Marksman, we wanted to let you know that we value our California Customers. Unfortunately, due to recent changes in California law, we are no longer able to ship directly to most of our customers’ homes. There is a solution we hope to offer our valued customers.

      Under new California law, we can still ship our products to DOJ approved and licensed individuals/dealers in the State of California. We are in the process of adding a new tab on the website for our California customers to utilize. That page will list individuals and dealers in California that would like to serve as an outlet for our products.

      If you are a licensed DOJ approved Ammunition Vendor/FFL holder or know of a reputable one, please contact us at marketing@ammarkammo.com. We would like to add those individuals or businesses to our growing network throughout California.

      Our goal is to continue to serve our customers with great ammunition, components and prices for years to come.
      Thanks,

      American Marksman
      marketing@ammarkammo.com
      Last edited by lweinlan; 01-15-2018, 11:23 AM.

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      • #63
        CaliforniaLiberal
        #1 Bull Goose Loony
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2008
        • 4690

        LAX Ammunition is No, Nix, Nyet, Nope and Uh-Uh.

        I have hope that after a few months those not shipping to CA will see that dozens of other online ammo dealers are making bucks without legal troubles and they are being left out. Might be worth checking again after a while.

        Hello,

        Thank you for your email. Starting this new year we are no longer be able to ship to California residents home. We will still be able to ship in California but it will have to go through an FFL with an ammunition vendors license and a copy of the each must be sent to documents@laxammo.com

        However, at this time we are still not taking California orders, but hope to begin once again by next month.

        We are still able to ship out of state.

        You are also still able to make a face to face transaction whether it be at one of our retail store locations or at a gun show.

        Please note, we will NOT have in store pick up available for online orders. For in store stock and pricing you would need to contact each individual retail store directly.

        Background checks will not be required for the state of California until July 2019. We are still making arrangements to see how the background check portion of the new law will be put into affect.

        If you have any additional questions or concerns please let me know.

        Best,
        Stephany H.


        Customer Service
        LAX Ammunition
        1 (855) 407-2666
        www.laxammo.com


        On Thu, Jan 11, 2018 at 4:02 PM, Customer Support <service@laxammunition.com> wrote:


        Subject: Shipping Ammo to CA shooters with FFL03 and COE

        Message: Will you honor the exception that allows you to ship ammo to California residences of C&R FFL03 AND COE holders?
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        • #64
          lweinlan
          Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 170

          ammunitionstore.com is a GO as stated on their "Can you buy ammo online?" page (scroll down to the middle of the page):

          California:
          No ammunition feeding devices over 10 rounds. No Tracer or Incendiary ammunition.
          Dec. 20th 2017 will be the last day for orders shipping directly to individuals. After that date, the following requirements will be in place.
          Ammunition shipments must go to one of the following:

          - A licensed ammunition vendor with a copy of their license on file
          - A Federally licensed dealer (FFL) with a copy of their license on file
          - A type 03 FFL (C&R) with a certificate of eligibility (COE) and both licenses on file
          - A gun range that will keep the ammunition on their premises
          - A law enforcement agency with written authorization from the head of the agency stating that the ammunition is for official use
          Last edited by lweinlan; 01-12-2018, 3:19 PM.

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          • #65
            joefrank64k
            @ the Dark End of the Bar
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Mar 2009
            • 10124

            I can confirm that United Nations Ammo Company
            You will never, in your life, have a chance like this again.
            If I were you, I would not pass this up. I would not let this go by...this is rare.
            Come on...what harm??

            joefrank64k 251/251 100% iTrader?

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            • #66
              lweinlan
              Member
              • Jan 2007
              • 170

              It is a GO with AmmoForSale.com. They need your FFL03 and COE on file with them:

              Hi,

              We are very sorry to hear about the new set of rules or you folks over there in California. As the law does allow for that exemption, we have no issues shipping to you after you have provided the 2 documents mentioned. It usually helps to have either an account or at the very least on order in file to help us anchor everything together.

              Please let us know if you have any other questions or if we can be of any help with your ammo supply!

              Max
              AmmoForSale.com
              (800) 581-0293

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              • #67
                lweinlan
                Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 170

                it is also a GO with venturamunitions:

                Hello,

                We are still shipping ammunition to Cali with the right credentials and area. If you have any other questions or concerns please feel free to contact us at the number below or simply reply to this email (rmccale@venturamunitions.com).

                Thank you,


                Ryan McCale

                Ventura Munitions
                Standard and Specialty Ammunition for the Discerning User
                Ventura Munitions offers cheap bulk and specialty ammo online and in store in Las Vegas NV

                1-855-438-8626 ext. 704
                hello Ryan,

                could you please confirm that the right credentials also include individuals holder of a FFL03 and a California Certificate of Eligibility (in a non restricted area/city) ?
                It seems that some vendors are only referring to FFL01 (dealers) when they state that they accept to ship to California.

                thank you

                Hello,

                You are in the clear in according the Penal Code 30312(c)(6). We will still ship to you as long as the shipping address isn't located in a restricted area.

                Thank you,


                Ryan McCale

                Ventura Munitions
                Standard and Specialty Ammunition for the Discerning User
                Ventura Munitions offers cheap bulk and specialty ammo online and in store in Las Vegas NV

                1-855-438-8626 ext. 704
                Last edited by lweinlan; 01-12-2018, 4:48 PM.

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                • #68
                  rice_man
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1105

                  Thanks for the latest confirmation. The list keeps growing which is a very good thing to see. Nice to still have options.
                  Stop calling them Lawmakers. It only encourages them.

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                  • #69
                    97F1504RAD
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 6315

                    Thanks for updating thread Glen as well as all the leg work u did.

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                    • #70
                      lweinlan
                      Member
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 170

                      LAX Ammunition Operations Manager emailed to let me know that they should have a system in place to accept ammo orders from FFL03 + CoE by next month (Feb 2018). Let's wait and see.

                      Hi,

                      Yes once our new system is up and running. Our website currently blocks all Ca orders until the new system is finished.

                      Should be up and running by next month.

                      We appreciate your business, and patience.

                      Have a great day!

                      Vanessa
                      Operations Manager
                      LAX Ammunition
                      1 (855) 407-2666
                      Buy quality, USA made ammunition here! Offering new and remanufactured for cheap prices. Shop 9mm, 223, 380, 45, 10mm and more.

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                      • #71
                        xrik
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 281

                        Does anyone know about Palmetto State armory? I emailed them and have not heard back yet?

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                        • #72
                          rice_man
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1105

                          Originally posted by xrik
                          Does anyone know about Palmetto State armory? I emailed them and have not heard back yet?
                          PSA is on the list and was confirmed by lweinlan. Their website does not specifically state FFL03 only dealers so may warrant a call to them before ordering.
                          Last edited by rice_man; 01-16-2018, 6:14 PM.
                          Stop calling them Lawmakers. It only encourages them.

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                          • #73
                            Gmtmaster2003
                            Member
                            • Jun 2016
                            • 156

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                            • #74
                              lweinlan
                              Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 170

                              it is a NO GO for Red River Reloading & Outdoors:

                              Unfortunately not for the time being. Our warehouses are requiring that
                              we ship to an FFL dealer. I forwarded your email to our warhouses for
                              review.

                              --
                              Thanks for your business!
                              Steven Flood
                              512-827-8651
                              Floodhammer Media Inc.
                              Red River Reloading & Outdoors
                              Red River Reloading & Outdoors offers great deals on reloading brass and bullets, loaded ammunition, gun parts and accessories as well as nearly anything else you'll need to enjoy the great outdoors.

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                              • #75
                                Skypass307
                                Junior Member
                                • Jul 2017
                                • 5

                                Mark from The Bullet Barn confirmed that they will be shipping to FFL03+COE.

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