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  • SoCal326
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1098

    Savage 12 LRP 6.5 CM incorrect chamber length?

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    Last edited by SoCal326; 12-03-2017, 2:08 PM.
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    paulcoe@live.com
    Junior Member
    • Jan 2017
    • 3

    I have the same rifle and love it. Best advise I can give is get on the phone with bot Savage and Hornady. I would like to hear how each one explains this problem. I load at 2.800 OAL and well of the lands.

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      baih777
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2011
      • 5679

      Take it to a gunsmith to check the cartridge bore.
      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
      I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
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      • #4
        bsumoba
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 4217

        Do you have a borescope? Most factory rifles have long throats. Maybe you have a rough cut chamber and that is what is causing the binding and scratching? Rifling marks on the bullet should look more like 4,5 or 6 grooves, not marks around the bullet like in your picture. try using some permanent pen and coat a loaded round and stick it in the chamber and see what the marks looks like and post a pic.

        Don't contact Hornady. They suck and will be all blame on the rifle mfg or you.
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        • #5
          LynnJr
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2013
          • 7949

          ^ this
          The scratches from lands should be very uniform and the ones in your picture look like burrs on the lands from chamberings the barrel.
          Are all sides of the bullet the same?
          Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
          Southwest Regional Director
          Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
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          • #6
            SoCal326
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1098

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            • #7
              Sir Toast
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 3106

              Do some research. The Hornady 140's have always been problematic. I'll try to find some other posts that discuss it. I had the same problem. The bullet got stuck in the barrel and when I pulled the bolt back, it opened it, with the bullet in the barrel and the powder would come spilling out.

              It isn't the rifle. It is the Hornady 140's. If you reload, you should for 6.5 creedmoor. I'll see if I can find some prior threads on Snipershide.

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                SoCal326
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1098

                Last edited by SoCal326; 12-03-2017, 7:30 PM.

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                  SoCal326
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1098

                  Last edited by SoCal326; 12-03-2017, 7:27 PM.

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                    Sir Toast
                    Veteran Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 3106

                    Okay, here is one:

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                    • #11
                      bsumoba
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 4217

                      Originally posted by Sir Toast
                      Do some research. The Hornady 140's have always been problematic. I'll try to find some other posts that discuss it. I had the same problem. The bullet got stuck in the barrel and when I pulled the bolt back, it opened it, with the bullet in the barrel and the powder would come spilling out.

                      It isn't the rifle. It is the Hornady 140's. If you reload, you should for 6.5 creedmoor. I'll see if I can find some prior threads on Snipershide.
                      So, how is it the bullet? Bullet diameter is larger than 0.264"?

                      It looks like the throat/neck area is rough in your chamber. Also, measure the diameter of the bullet. I am curious if it is greater than .264 (6.5mm).


                      This, in my opinion, is the best way to find the lands. Tools like the Hornady OAL gauge put the bullet fairly deep in the lands before you feel the bullet stop. You are most likely 0.020-0.050" in the lands with the Hornady OAL gauge.

                      This method requires you to remove the ejector and firing pin so that these two things are not affecting the "feel" of the bullet touching the lands as you close the bolt.

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                      • #12
                        SoCal326
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1098

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                        • #13
                          baih777
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 5679

                          Where are you located?
                          Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                          I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                          I'm Back.

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                          • #14
                            pacrat
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • May 2014
                            • 10258

                            If you had a bore scope, or did a chamber casting. You would without a doubt find that the leade/throat portion of your chamber was improperly cut. Likely chatter marks from a funky undersized reamer are causing the longitudinal scratches on your bullets.

                            Doubt that Savage will help at this late date. But trying will cost nothing.

                            If they won't deal with the issue. I suggest you contact CG member "kcstott" he is down your way, in National City and can likely point you to someone local to fix the issue.

                            Throating a chamber is not a big deal. But should not be attempted without experience and understanding of what is required.


                            JM2c

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                            • #15
                              longrange1
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 1032

                              Originally posted by pacrat
                              If you had a bore scope, or did a chamber casting. You would without a doubt find that the leade/throat portion of your chamber was improperly cut. Likely chatter marks from a funky undersized reamer are causing the longitudinal scratches on your bullets.

                              Doubt that Savage will help at this late date. But trying will cost nothing.

                              If they won't deal with the issue. I suggest you contact CG member "kcstott" he is down your way, in National City and can likely point you to someone local to fix the issue.

                              Throating a chamber is not a big deal. But should not be attempted without experience and understanding of what is required.


                              JM2c
                              this right here ^^^i really doubt theres a problem with the bullets its a F'd up chamber...any smith should be able to stick a bore scope in the barrel while you wait and tell you whats going on...fixing it may be a wait.

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