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  • Californio
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    • Dec 2006
    • 4169

    Match Dies - who makes the best

    All my stuff is RCBS - so I have been looking at Competition and Gold Metal Match die sets, pricey to say the least.

    I am using Lapua Brass in .223/.308 so I am looking for the best dies for my bolt guns.

    I notice using a slightly compressed load of Varget in .223 leaves a ring around the top of the Hornady 75gr BTHP match bullet, must have a real thin skin. Would a better die not cause the ring?

    Are the Redding dies better and which model?

    Thanks
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  • #2
    22popnsplat
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 1042

    If you take the seater plug out of the die and polish the inside edge with some 600 grit sand paper and then 1000 to remove that sharp edge and then clean the plug with some brake cleaner I have found this to help .

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    • #3
      freakshow10mm
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2008
      • 3061

      Redding all the way.

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      • #4
        BamBam-31
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        • Dec 2005
        • 5318

        Randall (ar15barrels) recommends the Redding Type S sizing die (neck for bolts, full for semi's, I'd assume) and the Competition seating die. That's what I'm getting when I get the coin. The man knows his stuff.
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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44094

          Argueable, the BEST sizing dies would be cut with the same reamer as your chamber is cut with. Of course, this means a lot of custom work but, you asked.
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          • #6
            Ahhnother8
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 1454

            Redding type 'S' sizing
            Redding competition seating

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            • #7
              264charlie
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2008
              • 1060

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              • #8
                J-cat
                Calguns Addict
                • May 2005
                • 6626

                Neil Jones makes the best match dies.

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                • #9
                  C.G.
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 8249

                  Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                  Argueable, the BEST sizing dies would be cut with the same reamer as your chamber is cut with. Of course, this means a lot of custom work but, you asked.
                  Yup.
                  And after that, Redding, still expensive, and may not fit the box once you assemble the die (one would think that they might have thought of that).
                  After that Forster, close to Redding, but less expensive.

                  I don't have custom dies as CSACANNONEER stated as best, the other two are a toss up between how much many you want to spend as oppose to quality.

                  My .338LM dies are Redding, 6.5 Grendel, .223 and .308 are Forster.
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                  • #10
                    CSACANNONEER
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 44094

                    Originally posted by C.G.
                    Yup.
                    And after that, Redding, still expensive, and may not fit the box once you assemble the die (one would think that they might have thought of that).
                    After that Forster, close to Redding, but less expensive.

                    I don't have custom dies as CSACANNONEER stated as best, the other two are a toss up between how much many you want to spend as oppose to quality.

                    My .338LM dies are Redding, 6.5 Grendel, .223 and .308 are Forster.
                    Heck, I can't justify the expense of custom dies either. I've got dies ranging from Lee to Redding comp dies. If I was a top shooter, capable of setting records, I'd consider going to the trouble and expense of getting custom dies made and recutting my chambers. I don't see that happening anytime soon though.
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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
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                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57173

                      Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                      Heck, I can't justify the expense of custom dies either. I've got dies ranging from Lee to Redding comp dies. If I was a top shooter, capable of setting records, I'd consider going to the trouble and expense of getting custom dies made and recutting my chambers. I don't see that happening anytime soon though.
                      It's pretty simple to make a new seating insert for a redding or forester BR die if you have the reamer that cut your barrel's chamber.
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                      • #12
                        Jonathan Doe

                        I use Redding competition dies for 223 and 300 WSM, and Forster Competition dies for 308. Both are excellent dies with micrometer adjustment. Most other dies for my other calibers are Redding also.

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                        • #13
                          CSACANNONEER
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
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                          • Dec 2006
                          • 44094

                          Originally posted by ar15barrels
                          It's pretty simple to make a new seating insert for a redding or forester BR die if you have the reamer that cut your barrel's chamber.
                          Yep, but, many of us don't have the reamer. I know that next time I get a rifle rebarrelled, I'll buy the reamer first. But, a new barrel, a reamer, gunsmith services and a custom die add up fast. I won't go this route until I need a new barrel!
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                          • #14
                            Californio
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                            • Dec 2006
                            • 4169

                            Well I ordered the Redding Competition Seater from Midway, same old, same old - Back Ordered.
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                            • #15
                              C.G.
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 8249

                              Originally posted by Californio
                              Well I ordered the Redding Competition Seater from Midway, same old, same old - Back Ordered.
                              Try, Midsouth Shooters, Natchez or Graf and Sons.
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