.223 recipe. I'm a newb trying different bullets

[4literranger485]

well that blows. Hopefully i can get some decent results with that powder. At least I only bought a 1# jug i guess. Maybe I'll find more varget when Chief takes a nap (that is if he even sleeps)

+1 On that extra brass at the range. Im trying to start inviting non-reloaders to the range/desert with me so I can have all that sweet, shiny brass My buddy gave me 60 cases this afternoon, and said I can have all his if he comes shooting. I said "wanna go this afternoon?"

[USN CHIEF]

well that blows. Hopefully i can get some decent results with that powder. At least I only bought a 1# jug i guess. Maybe I'll find more varget when Chief takes a nap (that is if he even sleeps)

+1 On that extra brass at the range. Im trying to start inviting non-reloaders to the range/desert with me so I can have all that sweet, shiny brass My buddy gave me 60 cases this afternoon, and said I can have all his if he comes shooting. I said "wanna go this afternoon?"

No worries, I am done buying powder for a little while.

Man I love my buddies that I go shooting with, but I love the ones that don't reload even more.

[pdq_wizzard]

Well, for some reason AR's are not liking it. Like many other have mentioned it, maybe it works great with Bolt Action Guns or Mini 14's.

I have a CMMG 20" and it works "OK" out of that (good for plinking) if you have IMR 4198 and no other loads to use it in.

[4literranger485]

maybe i could convince the "boss" to let me get a mini 14 thats rational right? buy $800 rifle so i don't waste $25 of powder. hmmmmm..........

[USN CHIEF]

maybe i could convince the "boss" to let me get a mini 14 thats rational right? buy $800 rifle so i don't waste $25 of powder. hmmmmm..........

Why tell her Just do it.

[4literranger485]

Why tell her Just do it.

Well Chief, while your reloading tips are sound. Your marriage advice is horrible

[cleanguy46]

Why tell her Just do it.

Last time I took this kind of action....I got smoked! Remember if the wife aint happy.....well you know the rest.

[Darklyte27]

3300 fps doesnt sound too crazy, chief is using 25 grains.
I remember seeing shelf ammo is around 3200 fps
jicko, remember this is .223 ammo not .308

heres an example of some 62 gr 855 ammo thats getting around 3100 fps

http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=8495&dir=18|830|845

Chief I bet you could use 24-24.5 grains and still get good results and even save more powder for more loads.

if you get a rifle, be sure to get something for her too, and I dont mean a gun, you must pay in full for her item dont leave her hanging to pay a portion, such as a coach purse or something..
worked for me.. about 5 times.. haha

[Rule .308]

Try this...

http://data.hodgdon.com/main_menu.asp

Also, you can use the load in your manual that's for a 55gr bullet, it doesn't have to be the exact bullet your using as long as its the same weight, just start off with the min load and work up.

While that may work in some instances, it will not work in all instances. It is entirely possible to have two bullets of the same weight that have completely different bearing surfaces on the bullet. The bullet with the greater bearing surface will create higher chamber pressures in order to push it down the barrel. There was an article in one of my shooting mags by written by a fellow that worked for Barnes, the condensed version was some guy was using Barnes bullets with reloading data for some other brand of bullets that were the same weight as his Barnes projectiles. Because of the increased bearing area of the Barnes bullet he was popping primers out of his casings due to over pressure. When he consulted the correct Barnes manual he found that he was way over on the powder charge.
If you look in your reloading manual you will often find different data for different bullets of the same weight, like 148 gr jacketed bullets versus lead bullets. I myself am guilty of doing the same thing and it has never been a problem but it is surely something that you should consider.

[xxdabroxx]

I think the issue with the lead vs jacketed is that the lead seals around the rifling in the barrel better, thus creating higher pressures. I couldnt see much difference between a jacketed bthp and a jacketed hp. Mayebe a little bit, but not nearly the difference between jacketed an non-jacketed.

[DB2]

Here's what the Hornady book says.

#2267 BT-FMJ w/c .224 55 grain bullet.
C.O.L 2.200"

IMR 4198
17.4gr=2800fps
18.2gr=2900fps
19.1gr=3000fps
20.0gr=3100 (max load)

This is out of the newest Hornady edition. I have 250 more rounds loaded at 19.2gr with 4198. They work just fine out of my AR with a 20" barrel.

[mif_slim]

3340!?!?!?!?!

That sounded WAY too hot!

What barrel? 24"??

Sierra shows 2800fps(probably low), but 3340fps seems to be too far off
http://accurateshooter.net/Downloads/sierra223ar.pdf

Yeah, I was thinking the same. 3340 is really hot. Did you check your brass for pressure signs? At that high of a velocity, its gotta have at least flatten primers...but I could be wrong. I've loaded 26gr with 55gr but RL15 and Im getting about ~2900fps, but their diffrent powder.

OP: You can try AA2230, Im clocking in with 55gr 24.3gr @ 2985fps and good groups at 100 yards. I get better velocity with AA2460 though but Im out of those and dont have my book ready for numbers.

[4literranger485]

Here's what the Hornady book says.

#2267 BT-FMJ w/c .224 55 grain bullet.
C.O.L 2.200"

IMR 4198
17.4gr=2800fps
18.2gr=2900fps
19.1gr=3000fps
20.0gr=3100 (max load)

This is out of the newest Hornady edition. I have 250 more rounds loaded at 19.2gr with 4198. They work just fine out of my AR with a 20" barrel.

Awesome! that is the exact data i was looking for. Much appreciated