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  • #16
    sghart
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 1225

    "For stuff to shoot, BP subs are cheap, easy to get and easy to clean plus there isn't the 1 pound restriction."


    What one pound restriction would that be? I've never heard of it.

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    • #17
      TexasJackKin
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 718

      Originally posted by MarkInFolsom
      Has anyone here actually tried to make black powder? I ask because, many moons ago in my youth, I tried every which way to make this stuff and make it go boom. This was way before the days of internet. Finally just gave up and went to Simms hardware in Sac and bought some FFF. Way easier to use in my .50 cal Hawken.
      I made good black powder when I was in High school, to use in canons we made in machine shop class, worked well, a little more smoke than store bought.

      Like you, I bought powder of all sorts from Simms hardware, and I still remember the last 4 digits in their phone number was 3030.....ah the good old days.....
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      • #18
        FF90
        Member
        • Jul 2014
        • 158

        Although BP can be home made, personally I would not do it, there is a reason that pyrodex is more common- the BP factories keep blowing up . it is very sensitive to static, friction, etc. not worth the risk in a non survival situation

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        • #19
          Paul_R
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2011
          • 2847

          Originally posted by sghart


          What one pound restriction would that be? I've never heard of it.
          It's FUD, don't worry about it. There is no one pound restriction but you'll never convince a regulation junkie of that. Even though you can buy 10 pounds at any BP retailer in CA...
          Fear is a social disease

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          • #20
            70 blazer
            Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 420

            Originally posted by rsrocket1
            Again, it's easy to mix the chemicals to make it burn but it's not easy to make it work like shooting grade BP. I just saw that episode "Arena" again a month or two ago and laughed when I saw Kirk "measuring" the proportions with his hands and stuffing diamonds into a plant tube as a barrel to use against the Gorn. Then when the projectiles hit the Gorn they didn't seem to affect the rubber suit at all.

            Oh well, it seemed pretty good when it was first aired. The mortar they used was the coolest thing I remembered when I first saw it.
            he killed him with it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDD3-2_wLR8 lol

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            • #21
              sealocan
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2012
              • 9950

              Guys, just be extra careful if you decide to do it or you'll poke more than an eye out.

              ... Just ask the lizard Overlord who danced with Captain Kirk.


              Personally I'm going to leave that kind of thing up to a professional.
              ( both the black powder making and the dancing with Kirk.)

              Because at this point in time it's not cost effective when measured up against risk. At least to me.

              Although I could see doing it once or twice too put that skill set in your back pocket.

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              • #22
                mikeyr
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 1554

                Originally posted by Paul_R
                It's FUD, don't worry about it. There is no one pound restriction but you'll never convince a regulation junkie of that. Even though you can buy 10 pounds at any BP retailer in CA...
                5lbs. MAX black powder, you may be able to buy more, but 5 is max. Although, down this page for 12102 it does mention 1lb. so not sure, but I think the max you can have is 5lb.

                Last edited by mikeyr; 11-13-2017, 2:01 PM.
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                • #23
                  Paul_R
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 2847

                  Originally posted by mikeyr
                  5lbs. MAX black powder, you may be able to buy more, but 5 is max. Although, down this page for 12102 it does mention 1lb. so not sure, but I think the max you can have is 5lb.

                  https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/f...er=4.&article=
                  Wrong again. You people always ignore the very first chapter in your irrelevant explosives regulation where it specifically states that powders used for ammunition are not explosives. Period. That means this regulation does not apply. Period. In other words, that's where you stop. Unless you just can't stand the idea that people might have some freedom after all and need to make stuff up.


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                  • #24
                    sghart
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 1225

                    Paul R:

                    Thank you for that. I don't know where these guys get all of these ideas.

                    In the past I have ordered blackpowder 25 lbs at a time. Never got a knock on my door from Johnny Law.

                    Nowadays I don't shoot as much as I used to but the store where I buy my stuff now doesn't care how much I buy at one time. They do record the number from each container into a log book.

                    I was in Nevada last month and I stopped to buy some smokeless powder. While I was there I asked about blackpowder and if Nevada had any limits.

                    Reply from clerk: "This is Nevada. We don't give a s**t how much you buy."

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                    • #25
                      Paul_R
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2011
                      • 2847

                      sghart:

                      You're welcome.

                      Fortunately, every law enforcement agency and every BP retailer in the state of California knows how to read and apply regulations. Unlike the Calguns black powder FUD patrol.
                      Fear is a social disease

                      Got a jury summons? Know your rights! http://fija.org/

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                      • #26
                        logibear1daddy
                        Member
                        • Aug 2017
                        • 111

                        Originally posted by Paul_R
                        sghart:

                        You're welcome.

                        Fortunately, every law enforcement agency and every BP retailer in the state of California knows how to read and apply regulations. Unlike the Calguns black powder FUD patrol.
                        Haha lmao

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                        • #27
                          rsrocket1
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 2769

                          Originally posted by sghart
                          "For stuff to shoot, BP subs are cheap, easy to get and easy to clean plus there isn't the 1 pound restriction."


                          What one pound restriction would that be? I've never heard of it.
                          I guess someone should change the calguns foundation wiki:


                          California does place limits on storage of smokeless propellant - 20 pounds - and black powder - 1 pound.
                          California does place limits on storage of smokeless propellant - 20 pounds - and black powder - 1 pound
                          Ain't no damn restrictions and it ain't illegal unless you get caught. -mall ninja rebels

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                          • #28
                            Paul_R
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Jan 2011
                            • 2847

                            Originally posted by rsrocket1
                            I guess someone should change the calguns foundation wiki:




                            California does place limits on storage of smokeless propellant - 20 pounds - and black powder - 1 pound
                            Ain't no damn restrictions and it ain't illegal unless you get caught. -mall ninja rebels
                            Yes, they definitely should take that BS down. It was obviously written by a hand wringing regulation junkie and it is ignored by every law enforcement agency and every BP retailer in the state.
                            Last edited by Paul_R; 11-14-2017, 8:50 AM.
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                            • #29
                              jericho89
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1129

                              the regulation is set by fire code. If you want to know how much black powder you can legally have at any given time check with your local fire marshal. It is different for each county.

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                              • #30
                                CSACANNONEER
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                                • Dec 2006
                                • 44093

                                Originally posted by sghart
                                Paul R:

                                Thank you for that. I don't know where these guys get all of these ideas.

                                In the past I have ordered blackpowder 25 lbs at a time. Never got a knock on my door from Johnny Law.

                                Nowadays I don't shoot as much as I used to but the store where I buy my stuff now doesn't care how much I buy at one time. They do record the number from each container into a log book.

                                I was in Nevada last month and I stopped to buy some smokeless powder. While I was there I asked about blackpowder and if Nevada had any limits.

                                Reply from clerk: "This is Nevada. We don't give a s**t how much you buy."
                                No one cares how much you buy in California either. The law in question is one regarding storage. You can buy all you want, you just have to follow the state and local fire codes when you store it.
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