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  • JTROKS
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 13093

    Which Load to chase

    Been a while since I followed up on this load development. I finally finished up my brass prep to do another test batch. It's for my box stock Winchester 70 HBV in 22-250. Out of the batch it seems 34 grains is very promising. It's listed as max load with Hodgdon data, but there is no sign of over pressure with my brass. Should I just play with a longer COAL and/or load up a batch of 33.7 grains with a longer COAL. Or load try 34.3 and 34.5?

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  • #2
    Kwikvette
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 3704

    Tag.

    I'm learning load development
    Originally posted by longrange1
    my gun shoots better with shiny brass...plus not only does the shiny brass make me look like a pimp at the range if the sun catches it just right it blinds the guy next to me which improves my odds of winning the match.
    Originally posted by XDJYo
    Full size. Stubbies are for sissies.

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    • #3
      SBsasquatch
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 828

      My guess as an beginner 32.5 to 33?

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      • #4
        sofbak
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2010
        • 2628

        If it were me, I would retest at 33.5, 33.7, and 33.9 or (34.0) at the coal just to convince myself the results are repeatable.

        Then I would pick the best two and start dinking with coal variables.
        Tire kickers gonna kick,
        Nose pickers gonna pick
        I and others know the real

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        • #5
          pennstater
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 4650

          What powder? I'd leave it as is at 34.0gr and don't change anything. Load twenty more and do some 4 shot groups.

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          • #6
            longrange1
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2015
            • 1032

            id try 34.2 and 34.4 at the same seating depth just to see if things tighten up at all...id also load 34g and play both ways with seating depth...if things dont tighten up leave as is and shoot it...thats not a bad group for an outta the box gun.

            ALWAYS REMEMBER...when fine tuning a load NEVER change more than one thing at a time or youll be chasing your tail.

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            • #7
              jimmykan
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 3074

              If you are already near the published maximum charge weight, be cautious about testing even higher charges in the cool weather season. You may not be able to safely shoot the same load when ambient temperatures increase.

              Since the rifle has a heavy barrel, I suggest shooting 10 shot groups of each of 33.7 34.0 and 34.3.

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              • #8
                tonyjr
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 1448

                I would load about 15 maybe 20 and see if you can repeat. 3rounds id not enough to make a decision . Gun may have warned up , cartridges or you just settled down .
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                • #9
                  rm1911
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 4073

                  Originally posted by tonyjr
                  I would load about 15 maybe 20 and see if you can repeat. 3rounds id not enough to make a decision . Gun may have warned up , cartridges or you just settled down .
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                  • #10
                    JTROKS
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 13093

                    Powder is Ballsee2.
                    The wise man said just find your place
                    In the eye of the storm
                    Seek the roses along the way
                    Just beware of the thorns...
                    K. Meine

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                    • #11
                      kcstott
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 11796

                      Three round groups mean nothing.

                      Shoot some five round groups

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                      • #12
                        JTROKS
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 13093

                        For me 3 rounds is good enough. As long as the cold bore shot is right on the money I don’t need a subsequent shot. The last time I got the barrel on this rifle heated up was shooting prairie dogs. I’ll shoot 5 shot groups when I get a chance just to see. Then I’ll do a 10 shot just to see which way the spread goes as the barrel heats up.
                        The wise man said just find your place
                        In the eye of the storm
                        Seek the roses along the way
                        Just beware of the thorns...
                        K. Meine

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                        • #13
                          RiskyBusiness
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2017
                          • 2150

                          if there isn't any pressure signs i'd carefully push beyond that listed max by .2gr increments. its clear that your groups were getting tighter the higher you went.
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                          • #14
                            JTROKS
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2007
                            • 13093

                            Originally posted by RiskyBusiness
                            if there isn't any pressure signs i'd carefully push beyond that listed max by .2gr increments. its clear that your groups were getting tighter the higher you went.
                            Yes! I must do that for I haven't visited the red line with any of my ammo loads for a long while. It seems 34 grains is not the max for this rifle/load data combo.
                            The wise man said just find your place
                            In the eye of the storm
                            Seek the roses along the way
                            Just beware of the thorns...
                            K. Meine

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                            • #15
                              JackEllis
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 2731

                              I'd leave it at 34 and fiddle with OAL a bit but the 34 grain load looks darned good to me.

                              If this was my rifle and I was using it for squirrels and prairie dogs, I'd be done. The way I double check loads for hunting is to shoot at a 3" gong at 100 yards from a field rest (tripod or sticks). If I can hit it consistently, I can kill what I'm shooting at and that's good enough.

                              I realize competitive shooting is different.

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