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  • *bryce*
    Member
    • Dec 2015
    • 409

    Help with Identifying Surplus 7.62x54r

    Hey everyone,
    I was lucky enough to pick up a hex Mosin Nagant for a great price and along with it came over 1k rounds of ammo.

    I've tried to do as much research as possible on my own but I somehow always end up with different results as far as identification. I don't really have the means to pull a bullet and weigh it to get the weight either.

    The rounds in question both have yellow tips with no other colors. Which I believe indicates heavy ball but I'm unsure of grain. Looking at the bottom of the case, one is stamped "21" ontop and "51" on the bottom of the primer. The other is stamped "270" ontop and "47" on the bottom part of the primer.


    Can anyone tell me what these rounds are and approx. what they may be worth each?




  • #2
    santacruzgunner
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2016
    • 549

    Check this website

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    • #3
      ihasacookie
      Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 356

      Definitely heavy ball, probably somewhere around the 180gr range. Im thinking Hungarian.

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      • #4
        *bryce*
        Member
        • Dec 2015
        • 409

        Originally posted by ihasacookie
        Definitely heavy ball, probably somewhere around the 180gr range. Im thinking Hungarian.

        http://7.62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo008.htm
        Do you think both are Hungarian? I somewhat came to the conclusion on the ones label "21" that they were hungarian but was unsure of what weight they were.
        I can't seem to find much on the "270" however.

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        • #5
          17+1
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2010
          • 2847

          Originally posted by *bryce*
          Do you think both are Hungarian? I somewhat came to the conclusion on the ones label "21" that they were hungarian but was unsure of what weight they were.
          I can't seem to find much on the "270" however.
          Pull a bullet and find out!!

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          • #6
            God Bless America
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2014
            • 5163

            270 is Soviet. Lugansk, Ukraine.

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            • #7
              *bryce*
              Member
              • Dec 2015
              • 409

              Originally posted by 17+1
              Pull a bullet and find out!!
              I don't have the necessary tools. Although I could possibly do it with a couple of pliers, I still don't have a scale.

              Originally posted by God Bless America
              270 is Soviet. Lugansk, Ukraine.
              Good catch.


              Anyone know the approx value of these rounds? I'll probably stick with my 147grain rounds for now.

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              • #8
                opos
                In Memoriam
                • Oct 2009
                • 1597

                One thing...the heavy ball was a good round for one of my Mosins and not so good in others...I did find one thing...in the Hungarian Heavy ball yellow tip I had there were a lot of split necks..I guess some folks shoot those with the splits but I didn't ...
                God and the Constitution give me my rights and actions...any other input is just blabbering.

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                  Chief-7700
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                  • May 2008
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