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  • SquidBilly
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2016
    • 594

    Recommend a versatile powder for .223?

    I'm gonna start reloading .223 and I'm looking for a powder that will work for light to heavy bullets.

    I basically will be using the gun for hunting and have been eyeing the 36gr Barnes varmint grenade and then something in the 60-70gr range for heavier work. I'd probably lean towards something lead free like the Barnes 62gr TSX.

    According to the newest data I have, especially concerning Barnes bullets, I have come across just a couple powders that are used across that range of bullet weight. Ramshot TAC and A2015.

    Any other suggestions and data resources that you guys could offer?
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    SBsasquatch
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 828

    First decide what bullet weight you'll be using, then you can figure out what powder to use. Understand burn rates vs bullet weights.

    I'm reloading heavier bullets for .223 so I'm using a "slower" burning powder...

    Go to http://www.hodgdonreloading.com/ lots of info there...

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      SBsasquatch
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 828

      Also, choose the bullet weight to be best optimized with your barrel twist rate. What ever that is... good luck!

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      • #4
        sargenv
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 4618

        Alliant Powder has a web site
        Hodgdon has a loader guide for Hodgdon, IMR, and Winchester
        Vittavouri has a web site
        Western powers has a web site (Accurate and Ramshot)
        Shooter's World Powders (I've used their Tac rifle in 223, I like it)
        Norma powder has a web site

        They have all kinds of data for the weight range you want.. I listed them all here but then hit the back button and lost all I was going to post.. so in general, check out the powder web sites and you shall eventually find it.

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        • #5
          highpower790
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 3481

          Varget
          Keep it simple!

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          • #6
            kcheung2
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 4387

            There's actually quite a few. Just in the Western Powders world, in order of lighter to heavier, there is Ramshot X-terminator (same as AA2230), AA2460, & TAC. While all 3 of these will work in the range of 36gr-77gr, X-term is better for lighter, 2460 is midrange, etc. These 3 powders are also good for 308 & similar cartridges.

            Off the top of my head, IMR3031, H322, H335 are also good.
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            • #7
              cyclopes85
              Member
              • May 2015
              • 191

              Originally posted by highpower790
              Varget
              I second Varget.

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              • #8
                Osburnjd
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2016
                • 27

                I've been using BLC-2. Pretty versatile among calibers and moves easily through the powder dispenser.


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                • #9
                  Jimi Jah
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 17847

                  I'm a Dapper Dan man and a Varget fellow.

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                  • #10
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 56951

                    Originally posted by SquidBilly
                    I'm gonna start reloading .223 and I'm looking for a powder that will work for light to heavy bullets.

                    I basically will be using the gun for hunting and have been eyeing the 36gr Barnes varmint grenade and then something in the 60-70gr range for heavier work. I'd probably lean towards something lead free like the Barnes 62gr TSX.

                    According to the newest data I have, especially concerning Barnes bullets, I have come across just a couple powders that are used across that range of bullet weight. Ramshot TAC and A2015.

                    Any other suggestions and data resources that you guys could offer?
                    Choosing a powder that "works" with both ends of the weight spectrum means you will be compromising performance on BOTH ends of the weight spectrum.
                    The best solution is to pick a powder that works the best for EACH load you want to shoot.
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                    • #11
                      jimmykan
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3074

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      Choosing a powder that "works" with both ends of the weight spectrum means you will be compromising performance on BOTH ends of the weight spectrum.
                      The best solution is to pick a powder that works the best for EACH load you want to shoot.
                      Agreed.

                      That's such a wide range of bullet weights, the heavy end is almost double that of the light end, trying to use one powder to propel 36 grain bullets AND 70 grain bullets means you will end up with sub-optimal loads for one or the other or both bullet weights.

                      Too slow powder and you'll run out of case capacity and barrel length before you reach desired velocity.

                      Too fast powder and you'll reach maximum pressure before you reach desired velocity.

                      Unless you already have the powder and want to find a use for it, choose an ideal (not just satisfactory) powder for each bullet weight.

                      For the 36 grain bullets: Alliant Power Pro 1200-R, Hodgdon H322, Hodgdon 4198, Hodgdon Benchmark, IMR 3031, Ramshot X-Terminator

                      For the 69-70 grain bullets: Alliant Power Pro Varmint, Hodgdon H4895, Hodgdon Varget, IMR 8208 XBR, Ramshot TAC

                      I prefer ball powders or fine/short-cut extruded powders for loading 223 because they flow better through the narrow case neck and these powders tend to throw from a measure within +/- 0.1 grain so I don't bother to trickle charge and can load more rounds per hour.

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                      • #12
                        SquidBilly
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2016
                        • 594

                        Originally posted by ar15barrels
                        Choosing a powder that "works" with both ends of the weight spectrum means you will be compromising performance on BOTH ends of the weight spectrum.
                        The best solution is to pick a powder that works the best for EACH load you want to shoot.
                        This is what I was avoiding. But it makes sense.

                        I've not loaded for rifle before and was hoping for a one powder do it all.

                        But I should have figured it wouldn't be that way. I use 3 powders to cover all of my pistol needs. I'm going to have to do the same for rifle too.

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                        • #13
                          jimmykan
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 3074

                          Originally posted by SquidBilly
                          This is what I was avoiding. But it makes sense.

                          I've not loaded for rifle before and was hoping for a one powder do it all.

                          But I should have figured it wouldn't be that way. I use 3 powders to cover all of my pistol needs. I'm going to have to do the same for rifle too.
                          Welcome to rifle reloading, where:
                          • You have to lube cases before sizing them.
                          • You should check case length and trim cases too (I don't if they're new or I know it's all once-fired)
                          • A pound of powder only loads about 300 rounds of 223 ammo or 150 rounds of 308.

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                          • #14
                            FLIGHT762
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 3065

                            IMR 8208XBR

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                            • #15
                              TomReloaded
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2013
                              • 1637

                              Scale back up to 55gr at the lowest and then you can very effectively use one powder. A 55gr bullet is still tiny, theres no upside to going lighter. It tends to be cheaper too, as 55gr is by far the most common.

                              223 is a great caliber to load for. You can use one primer, one powder, one case to load basically any weight. There's exceptions obviously, but in general most people fall within a range of just needing one powder.
                              Last edited by TomReloaded; 07-19-2017, 1:16 PM.

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