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  • 11011500a
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 940

    rifle rim diameter

    hello all,
    I have a type 38 jap. the bore looks to still be 6.5mm but the bolt face is 12.65mm what i am getting at is 7.5x55 swiss fits the bolt face and that has a 12.65mm rim diameter. is there a 6.5mm round that has a 12.65mm rim diameter? Thank You
  • #2
    gunboat
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 3288

    The rim diameter of the 6.5 jap is 466/471 as is the 7.7 jap -- 6.5 has a body diameter of 447/455 the 7.7 has a body dia of 464/472 - They share the same bolt face diameter --- The 6,5 is a semi rimmed cartridge -- That does not mean it has not been rechambered -- 6.5 Roberts was a relatively common rechambering -- Chuck a dead 257 roberts in it, if it chambers and the bore is 6.5, it likely is 6.5x257 -- Do you need a 6.5 case? - My ha-penny

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    • #3
      buffybuster
      Veteran Member
      • Oct 2005
      • 2615

      I would suggest getting a chamber cast to determine exactly what it is before you attempt to fire anything in it. Any gunsmith can do that or you can buy the supplies yourself.

      If the rifle has been unmolested (bubba'ed) then it is probably 6.5mm Arisaka (aka 6.5Jap). Norma still loads ammo for it.
      Luck favors the prepared.

      The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.

      "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt

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      • #4
        11011500a
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2008
        • 940

        Thank you gunboat from what I could find online the 6x50r jap is 11.84mm I was just curious if there was a better fit for that bolt face I'd take you up on your offer if you have some spare 6.5 casings I am willing to drive to you. I'm in hayward.

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        • #5
          11011500a
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 940

          I'm not looking to fire it anytime soon just looking to get idea what it takes reading online some are chambered for long gone wildcat loads if its worth spending the money to have it cast .Its been bubba'ed stock has been changed &tapped for ascope but $60 take achance

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          • #6
            buffybuster
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 2615

            All I'm saying is just because a case drops into the chamber and the bolt closes doesn't mean everything's A-OK. A chamber cast is the ONLY way to really know what the chamber dimensions are and I'm recommending you have that done before you take any chances.

            Good Shooting
            Luck favors the prepared.

            The original battle plan did not survive initial contact with the enemy.

            "The things that will destroy America are prosperity at any price, peace at any price, safety first instead of duty first, the love of soft living and the get rich quick theory of life." -Theodore Roosevelt

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            • #7
              gunboat
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2008
              • 3288

              The type 38 jap does make a decent sporter -- It is a relatively strong action and could be rebarreled to a more usable cartridge. the 257 and 250 sav are good possibilities - If it is already been chopped up, it may merit some resurrection - I certainly would not spend much fixing it up or trying to rebuild -- A chamber cast is certainly worth while but i did not get the impression you were going to rush out with a handful of cartridges to the nearest range -- I only have a few examples of the 6.5 jap but would be happy to donate a couple for your examination -- I think we used to make cases from 220 swift, but those are more scarce than the jap now --

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