dillon rapid trim vs giraud power trimmer

[tommyid1]

besides that the giraud trims and deburs and the rapid trim can go on a progressive what are the pros and cons of each. does the rapid trim debur?

[Army GI]

I think that the giraud deburs better.

But the rapid trim deburs "good enough". Also, as you mentioned that it goes on a progressive so you don't have to do any extra steps.

My vote goes for the giraud.

[ChrisXD45T]

The giraud is more versitle, but the dillon can go on a press and trimming can be done along with sizing.
I bought the dillon and my friend is getting a giraud. If you want to load for semi or full-auto rifles, the dillon is great. For precision loading the giraud is best because you don't have to small base size the case while you trim like you do with the dillon.

[Sheldon]

The Dillon is probably faster if you don't feel the need to chamfer or debur and you'll handle the cases less if you're using a press with a casefeeder. I had one and the vacuum hookup was a pain as well as noisy. I did feel the need to debur and chamfer so I sold it and went the Giraud route and am happier.

[tommyid1]

reloading will be for semi auto's i have a single stage i use for the bolt guns.
the dillon trim dies are small base resizing dies? do they necksize as well or will i have to have another station to necksize if i go that route?

[ChrisXD45T]

reloading will be for semi auto's i have a single stage i use for the bolt guns.
the dillon trim dies are small base resizing dies? do they necksize as well or will i have to have another station to necksize if i go that route?

Small base is full length.
With the dillon trimmer you also need a proprietary sizer die to mount the trimmer on. This die does not expand the neck or de-prime the case, you need to FL size/expand/de-prime before using the dillon trimmer; this is why it's best used on a progressive. I, however, don't reload rifle progressively, nor do I recommend it. I keep mine set up on my Rockchucker while doing all the other stages on a second press.

[ar15barrels]

Small base is full length.
With the dillon trimmer you also need a proprietary sizer die to mount the trimmer on. This die does not expand the neck or de-prime the case, you need to FL size/expand/de-prime before using the dillon trimmer; this is why it's best used on a progressive. I, however, don't reload rifle progressively, nor do I recommend it. I keep mine set up on my Rockchucker while doing all the other stages on a second press.

The Giraud also uses proprietary case holders that are quite comparable in price to the Dillon's trim dies.

[ar15barrels]

I have written up an extensive comparison of the two trimmers before.
Search for Giraud and you should be able to find it.

For pure speed of processing brass, the dillon is faster.
The dillon trims so clean that there are no burrs to remove with a chamfer/deburr tool.
Simply tumbling the cases will remove the square edges.

If you want the cases chamfered and deburred, the giraud is faster, but requires the cases to be sized in a separate operation beforehand.

[shonc99]

I have written up an extensive comparison of the two trimmers before.
Search for Giraud and you should be able to find it.

For pure speed of processing brass, the dillon is faster.
The dillon trims so clean that there are no burrs to remove with a chamfer/deburr tool.
Simply tumbling the cases will remove the square edges.

If you want the cases chamfered and deburred, the giraud is faster, but requires the cases to be sized in a separate operation beforehand.

I agree complelely with ar15barrels. Based on his setup I bought a RCBS lube die and the Dillon trimmer. I can process 1k cases an hour, having to stop only to add lube to the lube die. I also don't worry about chamfering because after tumbling to remove lube, I run the cases through a standard sizing die that is backed out just a bit (keeps it from changing the shoulder angle) to smooth out the case neck. Couldn't be easier and now reloading 223 isn't as much as a pain in the rear.

[Toolbox X]

AR15barrels knows what he is talking about. Track down his comparison.