Hornady 22cal 80grEld

[highpower790]

For those that are wanting to use the new Hornady 22cal 80gr Eldm,they are finally available.Natchez Shooters Supply and Mid South Shooters Supply are both showing in stock.
Listed bc for these projectiles is .485,only better than the 80gr Amax by .040.

[highpower790]

My first 500 have arrived,now its time to chrono the two different lots of Varget I have before the 1st shots in a 3x600 next month.Im not expecting any big differences,but wanting to see any possible differences between the edlm and the amax at 600yds.

[hardlyworking]

highpower790, a longish question for you:

It seems to me, maybe you can confirm, that one would want to load these at longer than mag-length for slow fire single loading through the ejection port. Which makes them kind of a specialty round for a specific purpose that being service rifle 600 yard (or longer) target shooting.

If you are a serious competitor looking for every edge, and maximizing each stage of a competition or just pushing the envelope of your equipment these seem like a great option.

But for someone (me) who wants to standardize and pick one load and really learn it, collect data at various yardages, and concerned about magazine length loading, target as well as terminal performance from say 0-600, I recently decided to abandon the 77gr TMK as I thought it took up too much case capacity which could otherwise be used for propellant, and dropped down 10% to the 69gr TMK as my all-purpose projectile. I like the BC, the length, achievable velocity and the way the TMK looks in 10% gel, seems to fit the bill for me.

Am I overlooking something? Are these 80gr ELDs or similar 77gr TMKs (high BC, polymer tipped, extra long bullets) superior for an all-purpose round? Or are they best applied when loaded long with a filled case to maximize velocity for target shooting?

I'm not a highpower shooter, or service rifle competitor but I have definitely thought about going to CMP or similar matches to learn from and shoot with more experienced folks than myself. I'm just starting out as you can tell, and making decisions about what I want. Right now I'm trying to decide on and get dialed in on one particular handload and own it.

I've you've got any thoughts I'd love to hear em, and maybe others would too which is why I didn't just PM you.

[eric n]

Highpower,
Have you measured the bto difference between the eld and the 80amax or vld?
They look like a winner, high bc and cheap. Keep us posted on how they shoot please!

[highpower790]

Highpower,
Have you measured the bto difference between the eld and the 80amax or vld?
They look like a winner, high bc and cheap. Keep us posted on how they shoot please!

EricN
Base to ogive
1.80gr Amax .609
2.80gr ELDM .595
3.80gr VLD .592

[highpower790]

highpower790, a longish question for you:

It seems to me, maybe you can confirm, that one would want to load these at longer than mag-length for slow fire single loading through the ejection port. Which makes them kind of a specialty round for a specific purpose that being service rifle 600 yard (or longer) target shooting.

If you are a serious competitor looking for every edge, and maximizing each stage of a competition or just pushing the envelope of your equipment these seem like a great option.

But for someone (me) who wants to standardize and pick one load and really learn it, collect data at various yardages, and concerned about magazine length loading, target as well as terminal performance from say 0-600, I recently decided to abandon the 77gr TMK as I thought it took up too much case capacity which could otherwise be used for propellant, and dropped down 10% to the 69gr TMK as my all-purpose projectile. I like the BC, the length, achievable velocity and the way the TMK looks in 10% gel, seems to fit the bill for me.

Am I overlooking something? Are these 80gr ELDs or similar 77gr TMKs (high BC, polymer tipped, extra long bullets) superior for an all-purpose round? Or are they best applied when loaded long with a filled case to maximize velocity for target shooting?

I'm not a highpower shooter, or service rifle competitor but I have definitely thought about going to CMP or similar matches to learn from and shoot with more experienced folks than myself. I'm just starting out as you can tell, and making decisions about what I want. Right now I'm trying to decide on and get dialed in on one particular handload and own it.

I've you've got any thoughts I'd love to hear em, and maybe others would too which is why I didn't just PM you.

Pm sent

[eric n]

Thanks for posting the measurements.
Going to order some up. .10 cheaper then vlds will buy a new barrel.
Wish Berger/ Litz would hurry up and make an 85g hybrid.

[highpower790]

Thanks for posting the measurements.
Going to order some up. .10 cheaper then vlds will buy a new barrel.
Wish Berger/ Litz would hurry up and make an 85g hybrid.

Barnes makes a 85gr hpbt that I have tested at 200yds.100/100 with some x's on 600reduced target.

[OpenSightsOnly]

Wish Berger/ Litz would hurry up and make an 85g hybrid.

Berger has a very good .224 target line up - 80 VLD, 80.5 Fullbore, 82, and 90 VLD.

For a gas gun, the Berger 82 with a 20" 1:7 and one of the following powders (8208XBR, H4895, or Varget) can fly!

[eric n]

Berger has a very good .224 target line up - 80 VLD, 80.5 Fullbore, 82, and 90 VLD.

For a gas gun, the Berger 82 with a 20" 1:7 and one of the following powders (8208XBR, H4895, or Varget) can fly!

I haven't tried the fullbore and only played with the 82 at 400 but it shot really well.
Simple fact is the 90s shoot better then the rest but brass life sucks. I can kill a barrel with 2 1/2 boxes of brass shooting 80s but only get a handful of firings shooting 90s. For a guy that doesn't compete, its a tough tradeoff. I seem to recall hearing that Litz "may" be working on a mid 80g hybrid. If I could get performance between the 80's and 90s with easy tune and 10 firings on brass, that would be ideal!
Yeah... 8208 xbr works really well in a bolt gun too