Different case lube means different sizing die setting?

[Joefear7]

So I've been sizing some Federal .223 brass (all from the same lot) and I've been using Hornady One shot lube. I got my setting just right then I ran out of One shot and used some Dillon case lube. Now all my brass just barely gauge on the minimum on my case gauge. Is this typical? Does the Dillon lube work that much better that it helps it bump the shoulder more?

[ar15barrels]

Yes.
It's typical for the lube to change the die setting.
Even changing the AMOUNT of lube can effect the die setting.
And Dillon lube is a better lube than One-Shot.

[Rbutler]

dillion is way thicker then one shot so im guessing yes. especially since its something small like .01 between min and max headspace.

only downside to the dillion lube was i had to change my soap in my SS cleaning to get it off lol.

[JackEllis]

I used to roll cases on a lube pad before putting them in the sizing die. Now I rub a small amount of lube from the pad on the fingers of my left hand that transfers to the cases when I pick them up to place them in the die. Right or wrong, the idea is to get just enough lube on the case so it will go into and out of the die. There's less to remove and a smaller likelihood I'll wrinkle a neck.

I'll put more lube on my fingers about every 5-10 cases. Another way to think about it is having just enough lube on my fingers to "contaminate" the cases. also makes cleaning the die easier because it's not dripping with a combination of lube and dirt (I wash my cases before I size them).

[sethrus]

+1

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[Divernhunter]

Yes it can change the amount of sizing.
Yes Dillon or RCBS SPRAY lube is much better.
The old(very old) method with the pad is so bad. It is messy, slow and harder to remove. I stopped using the pad years ago and now use RCBS Spray lube. It also seems to work more smoothly and with less handle effort. Kind of like riding a donkey to go to town when you can drive a car. Time to modernize. Never wrinkled a neck with spray lube. Did so with roll pad. The roll pad was the only way years ago but thank God better and faster was are here now.

Stay with the spray RCBS or Dillon and just adjust your die if needed.

[FLIGHT762]

Yes.
It's typical for the lube to change the die setting.
Even changing the AMOUNT of lube can effect the die setting.
And Dillon lube is a better lube than One-Shot.

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Yes it can change the amount of sizing.
Yes Dillon or RCBS SPRAY lube is much better.
The old(very old) method with the pad is so bad. It is messy, slow and harder to remove. I stopped using the pad years ago and now use RCBS Spray lube. It also seems to work more smoothly and with less handle effort. Kind of like riding a donkey to go to town when you can drive a car. Time to modernize. Never wrinkled a neck with spray lube. Did so with roll pad. The roll pad was the only way years ago but thank God better and faster was are here now.

Stay with the spray RCBS or Dillon and just adjust your die if needed.

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I've found the Dillon / (or home made) Lanolin lube to be the best for resizing lots of cases.

For small jobs, Imperial lube or Mobil 1 Synthetic 20-50. The Mobil 1 actually works really well.

[Divernhunter]

I have heard some guys using ATF for 50bmg brass. Too messy for me besides the RCBS spray lube works excellent anyway. One reason I just buy it a case at a time. Then I do not run out while reloading.

[cyclopes85]

Different case lube means different sizing die setting?

I got a case stuck in my sizing die because I was using one shot. Then like a retard I decided to heat the die up to pull out the casing. If you're using Dillon dies do not use Hornady lube and don't heat them up... learn from my mistake.


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[robert101]

I use the lanolin and alcohol mixture now dispensed from a spray bottle. I'll never go back to the pad or the main stream lube makers.

[tonyjr]

I was using ground mica for pistol cases . When nephews got their assault rifles . The mica was not getting it .
One shot - I did not like - maybe me - little experience with spray lube .
I tried 2 different DIY - did not like them either .
Right now I am using Lyman spray - seems O K , but if others are liking Dillon or RCBS SPRAY - maybe I should try them . Just wondering - is spray lube in the hazmat category ?

[Divernhunter]

RCBS is great.
No haz-mat.
I have Dillon but have not tried it but think it will be fine.
After sizing I toss the brass into the tumbler(shaker really) for a short time to remove lube. Cut an old dryer sheet into 1/4ths and you will get a real long life out of the media.
I try to spray some lube into the inside of the necks on part of the brass to lube the expander ball. Then no squeaking and pulling the neck forward.

[cavemanlrrp]

I use the lanolin and alcohol mixture now dispensed from a spray bottle. I'll never go back to the pad or the main stream lube makers.

+1
Cheap, easy to make, works excellent.
No down side that I have found.

Best
caveman

[FLIGHT762]

The only downside to making this at home is the be sure to use the 99% isopropyl alcohol. DO NOT use 91%, it won't work. 99% can be hard to find in California. A substitute to use that will work is the automotive "HEET" used for water in gas tanks. You need to use the RED bottle HEET, NOT the yellow bottle.

I could not find the 99% isopropyl in my area and had to use the RED bottled HEET.

[tonyjr]

Divernhunter
Thanks - I have been depriming , tumbling / sonic / vibrator [ mostly vibrator easier to clean out corn / nut from cases ] , then to the primer , flash hole , beveler [ reamer ? ] then the mica dust .
This worked well for the 25 ACP to the 50 AE - but those were pistol pounds .
When I did rifle rounds they were on a single stage , but the way my nephews go thru the 308 and 762 cartridges , I was trying on loadmaster .
Ground mica was not working for me , tried the DIY mixture , One shot and now have Lyman .
Not sure when to lube - before or after primer [ I prime off press] Do I re-clean primer pocket / flash hole after lubing ?
Before on pistol cases , I never cleaned off the lube [ ground mica ]
In fact anything 38 or smaller , I did not lube at all . The 357 , 41 , 44 and 50 got lubed .
I was depriming with a frankford hand deprimer - it sucks foe rifle cases thou .
Now one tool head is for decapping , belling , sizing - then into vibrator .
So I stand the cases in a loading block, spray ann have been hand feeding into press - a PIA to load the tubes .
Next time I get one of the ads on line were they say XXX of if you buy YYY . I will order a case , if I like the Lyman spray - other wise it will be either Dillon or RCBS SPRAY - whichever is cheaper .
Thank again .