Dillon 650 question

[alexisjohnson]

I'm no expert but i wouldn't recommend using dillon lube for cases because if you want to measure the powder...you won't be able to.

This is where the Hornady kicks in....dry lube= no issues in that respect

[AandO]

[QUOTE=mjmagee67;19965264]I loaded pistol for years without case lube......then I tried Hornady One Shot......thought I heard Angels singing.....QUOTE]

I've never encountered any issues in multiplied thousands of 45acp loading on my 650's.

I do however want to hear Angels singing and do have some one shot I've never used.

Sure hope these are not Fallen Angels that I'll be hearing LOL



Need Lead for casting or Loading shells? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1218081

[mjmagee67]

[QUOTE=AandO;19966513]

I loaded pistol for years without case lube......then I tried Hornady One Shot......thought I heard Angels singing.....QUOTE]

I've never encountered any issues in multiplied thousands of 45acp loading on my 650's.

I do however want to hear Angels singing and do have some one shot I've never used.

Sure hope these are not Fallen Angels that I'll be hearing LOL





Need Lead for casting or Loading shells? http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s....php?t=1218081

Try it you will like it. It cuts the force required by over 50% and just smooths things out.

[OSTYS]

I'm no expert but i wouldn't recommend using dillon lube for cases because if you want to measure the powder...you won't be able to.

This is where the Hornady kicks in....dry lube= no issues in that respect

I do run into this same issue... gotta tap the he'll out of the cases over the scale to get all the powder out that wants to stick to the mouth. I also attribute that to me not letting the cases air out long enough after lubrication... but then again that's what the powder check station is for.

[bruce381]

Tumble in walnut the dust will lube the cases real well.

[Chief-7700]

From Starline's web site under FAQ
There are two situations that create this problem. The first is one we have just recently identified. It seems to be associated with the dillon powder funnel and only a couple of calibers (45 Auto and 40 S&W). The land for expanding case mouth is too long and when you begin to bell mouth the bottom of expander gets into the thicker taper of case and wedges causing it to be very hard to get back out. We have modified several by increasing radius on end and slightly shortening expanding land and this eliminated the problem completely. Call Starline and we will take care of it if you wish. One other cause can be a burr at case mouth created by the final trim operation, which grabs onto expander as it comes back up. This situation does not often appear and can be fixed by deburring case mouth or inside lubing cases.

[Lead Waster]

Wet tumbling works too well! Dry tumbling leAves a dusty coating that help with sticking dies. A shot of hornady one shot can help.

[bhilliker@comcast.net]

Thanks for all the tips. Some minor adjustments, polishing the funnel and a lit lube and things have gotten better. I am sure as I get more experience I will be able to smooth things out. If it gets bad again I will look into Chief--7700's comments a little harder. Thanks again

[krzgoat]

I found this same issue with some once fired 9mm brass I bought online and some 45acp brass I bought. Both were wet tumbled sparkly clean. I run the fine crushed walnut from harbor freight in my tumbler with some nu finish car wax. Tumble the wax in for about 30 minutes. After fighting the lube issue for a while I just tossed the ultra clean brass into the wax added dry tumble and ran it for about an hour or so and things started running better. No need to lube my pistol cases.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Henry Shooter]

I wet tumble all my brass.

I have also Flitz'd the inside of the die lightly.
This will smooth out any imperfections from the factory cuttings and put a smooth finish on the die.

To smooth the machine operation I picked this up off EBAY, made a world of difference.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shellplate-Bearing-Kit-and-Camming-Pin-Bearing-Dillon-XL-650-Hit-Factor-650CPB/301860489918?_trksid=p2045573.c100753.m4841&_trkparms=aid%3D555014%26algo%3DPL.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D43049%26meid%3D807d47c96e384f21ae04dd795b53a8ab%26pid%3D100753%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26

Its amazing how well this simple kit smooths out the operation.

[bhilliker@comcast.net]

Just did a large to small primer conversion and started running 9mm. Loaded 900 yesterday and started getting the same issues I had with large cases. Took a large baggie put 500-600 rounds in it and sprayed the Hornady one shot in the bag a couple of times. What a difference!! Looking forward to trying it with the large cases. Again, thanks for all the tips.

[bhilliker@comcast.net]

OK---so I changed back to 10mm today. I used a large zip lock and sprayed one shot lube in the bag. Made it hard to spot check powder but everything ran very smooth. For a litmus test I tossed a hand full of non lubed brass into the hopper-----oh yeah could really tell the difference. I ran 750 rounds. So----thanks again for all the tips. The lube seems to be the quick and easy solution----I am on a roll.

[XDJYo]

OK---so I changed back to 10mm today. I used a large zip lock and sprayed one shot lube in the bag. Made it hard to spot check powder but everything ran very smooth. For a litmus test I tossed a hand full of non lubed brass into the hopper-----oh yeah could really tell the difference. I ran 750 rounds. So----thanks again for all the tips. The lube seems to be the quick and easy solution----I am on a roll.

Congrats! Glad the hear it's going well for you now.

[Bigedski]

In all my years of reloading I have never used lube on pistol brass, .38, .357, .45 acp & colt, 9mm, .380, .32, .44mag, 44 spc. I have always used carbide resizing dyes.

[bhilliker@comcast.net]

Well---I checked my log----I have loaded 9300 rounds since March 10th.
9MM, 10Mm, 45 on the 650 and 44 mag on the single stage. Looking back over the comments---using the wet tumbler super cleans and makes the brass hang up. The One Shot did the trick. Had some primer feeding related issues---resolved that. Found that proper lubrication at the beginning of each run makes a world of difference. Being new my only measuring stick is results at the range, speaking to the RSO's there who see it all and talking to other re-loaders at the range. After my first couple hundred rounds I have had no issues-----unless you count 3 failure to feed out of several thousand rounds fired an issue. Guess I had a couple of good teachers a bit of good luck and a lot of patience. I can go out now, do a little prep and blow through 250 rounds in either caliber in about 30 minutes. Pretty happy with how things are going. My next hurdle is 44-40 for my Henry---I have heard that is tricky.