7.62x39

[JohnZ]

I just purchased an Ak47 and im dying to shoot it, but the only outdoor range that is close will not allow steel case rounds. So at AIM surplus they have surplus yugoslovian ammo which is brass, but its mildly corrosive. Is there anything to worry since its mildly corrosive? I clean all of my rifles once i get back from the range. Thanks

[Army GI]

If you clean your rifles when you get home, you're good to go

Just make sure to add this extra step: Before you do your regular cleaning routine, spray some Windex or just regular water down the barrel. This washes out the hydrophilic salts deposited in your barrel by the corrosive primers.

Read this: http://theboxotruth.com/docs/edu13.htm

OR

You can learn to reload and never worry about corrosive primers again

You can buy a box of 1000 123gr bullets for $183 from MidwayUSA

[joelogic]

What range doesn't like you shoot steel case? I thought the ranges in SoCal just didn't let you shoot bimetal bullets because of the fire potential.

[grammaton76]

Iron Sights won't allow steel case. I think American Shooting Center doesn't allow it either.

As for corrosive, I personally don't mess with corrosive in a semi-auto rifle.

Bolt action is one thing (pretty easy to get that all clean), but there's too many little angles and surfaces in the gas system of a semi-auto for me to want to mess with corrosive in one of those.

[gunboat]

No such thing as "mildly corrosive" -- It either is or isn't corrosive -- Hot water is the usual method of cleaning -- no other witches brew is needed -Best done same day --
I certainly agree use of corrosive in auto not worth the bother -Though a lot of garands ate a bunch of it --
my ha-penny

[JohnZ]

Im not what the reasoning behing not allowing that type of ammo is, but this is at Wes Thompson's in Filmore (ventura county). Im sure its because of fire hazards, the range is very nice, and the Range Master is great.

I would use this for my AK 47, so everything is extremely simple and the little angles are kept to a minimum. thanks for all the info

[JeffM]

Im not what the reasoning behing not allowing that type of ammo is, but this is at Wes Thompson's in Filmore (ventura county). Im sure its because of fire hazards, the range is very nice, and the Range Master is great.

I would use this for my AK 47, so everything is extremely simple and the little angles are kept to a minimum. thanks for all the info

Yep, the AK was designed for use with corrosive ammo.

After shooting hose the gun down inside and out, then clean and oil. Use hot water if you can, just because it dries quicker. If I'm in a hurry I'll even hit the nooks and crannies with heat gun to boil off whatever water is in there, then spray down with WD-40 or whatever water-displacing and penetrating oil I have handy.

[grammaton76]

Yep, the AK was designed for use with corrosive ammo.

After shooting hose the gun down inside and out, then clean and oil. Use hot water if you can, just because it dries quicker. If I'm in a hurry I'll even hit the nooks and crannies with heat gun to boil off whatever water is in there, then spray down with WD-40 or whatever water-displacing and penetrating oil I have handy.

Technically, everything designed before the 1960s or so was "designed for use" with corrosive ammo (as previously mentioned with the Garands). It doesn't mean that it's a good idea when non-corrosive is readily available.

[JeffM]

Technically, everything designed before the 1960s or so was "designed for use" with corrosive ammo (as previously mentioned with the Garands). It doesn't mean that it's a good idea when non-corrosive is readily available.

He's not looking for a "good idea", he's looking for an alternative to steel jacketed/cased ammo (which I'm sure you must have a problem with as well ) to shoot at an indoor range.

In a perfect world I'd shoot $8/round ammo through a $10,000 gun, and then have someone else clean it afterward.

Sometimes we have to make concessions to accommodate our shooting needs and budgets.

Corrosive is perfectly acceptable and you will see no difference in the service life you your rifle if you take care of it properly.

[JohnZ]

Thanks for the info. Im only going to use this ammo because i have to at this outdoor range, its the only one near me and i dont want to have to drive out to the desert everytime i want to do some shooting over 50 feet. for all other time, i use wolf ammo.

[CHS]

Im not what the reasoning behing not allowing that type of ammo is, but this is at Wes Thompson's in Filmore (ventura county). Im sure its because of fire hazards, the range is very nice, and the Range Master is great.

You're thinking of steel jacketed, not steel cased. Steel cased ammo provides absolutely ZERO fire danger whatsoever.

People mix up the terms steel core, steel jacket, and steel case much too often.

OP: Are you sure the range SPECIFICALLY said steel CASE? Are you positive they weren't talking about steel core/steel jacket?

[grammaton76]

He's not looking for a "good idea", he's looking for an alternative to steel jacketed/cased ammo (which I'm sure you must have a problem with as well ) to shoot at an indoor range.

You sure seem to enjoy jumping to conclusions here. Heck, it's tough parsing this sentence to see what it is you THINK I have a problem with here.

What I'm saying is there are a lot of alternatives to corrosive ammunition out there, and not all of them are expensive. My personal, preferred alternative is reloading my own, which tends to cost around Wolf's price or a little bit lower.

In a perfect world I'd shoot $8/round ammo through a $10,000 gun, and then have someone else clean it afterward.

Tell me, what color is the sky on the planet you would prefer to go shooting on? Your made-up arbitrary crap in the sentence above has no bearing on the argument whatsoever.

Sometimes we have to make concessions to accommodate our shooting needs and budgets.

Corrosive is perfectly acceptable and you will see no difference in the service life you your rifle if you take care of it properly.

Acceptable perhaps, but absolutely not optimal. Particularly when there are non-corrosive alternatives that don't involve a big upcharge.

[grammaton76]

OP: Are you sure the range SPECIFICALLY said steel CASE? Are you positive they weren't talking about steel core/steel jacket?

Dunno what range he's going to, but I do know Iron Sights in Oceanside specifically forbids steel cased ammo, so there are ranges out there doing it.

I suspect part of the reason is so that they can readily say, "anything that attracts a magnet is banned" instead of cutting open a projectile to see if there's steel core.

[CHS]

Dunno what range he's going to, but I do know Iron Sights in Oceanside specifically forbids steel cased ammo, so there are ranges out there doing it.

Yeah, I know there are ranges that do it too, but it still seems like most people get the terms confused and/or assume many times that steel case ALSO equals steel jacketed.

There really should be a steel ammunition FAQ/Sticky. Heh.

[JohnZ]

He specifically had boxes of both Wolf and Brown Bear ammo taped to the wall and said no steel cased ammo.