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  • JackEllis
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2015
    • 2731

    Keep Me Out of Trouble

    First, I need to make up a few hundred rounds of .223 once I'm finished testing a recipe. I suspect I'm going to be pressed for time because my testing range is covered with a couple of feet of snow at the moment and I need to have the hand loads ready by mid-March. What kind of trouble can I get into if I prime the cases now and then store them in a cool, dry place for a month or so until I'm ready to load them?

    Second, I've made up test loads for .223 using CCI Benchrest primers because that was all I could buy until a few days ago. If I use the same powder, same charge, same bullet but substitute standard CCI primers at some point down the road, should I redevelop the load from scratch or just confirm the rifle's zero with the new load? I'm thinking the only possible problem I could have substituting primers is with pressure but I'm too chicken to load hotter than the manufacturer's data.
  • #2
    pacrat
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2014
    • 10280

    Originally posted by JackEllis
    First, I need to make up a few hundred rounds of .223 once I'm finished testing a recipe. I suspect I'm going to be pressed for time because my testing range is covered with a couple of feet of snow at the moment and I need to have the hand loads ready by mid-March. [1]... What kind of trouble can I get into if I prime the cases now and then store them in a cool, dry place for a month or so until I'm ready to load them?

    Second, I've made up test loads for .223 using CCI Benchrest primers because that was all I could buy until a few days ago. If I use the same powder, same charge, same bullet but substitute standard CCI primers at some point down the road, should I redevelop the load from scratch or just confirm the rifle's zero with the new load? [2]...
    I'm thinking the only possible problem I could have substituting primers is with pressure but I'm too chicken to load hotter than the manufacturer's data.
    [1]...Zip-Loc bags [2]...safe load, is a safe load, pressure wise. Just confirm any POI changes.

    JM2c

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    • #3
      Divernhunter
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 8753

      I prime brass all the time and load it later. Some as much as 2-3 years. Never a problem.
      You can check zero but doubt it will change.
      A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
      NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
      SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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      • #4
        Whiterabbit
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2010
        • 7585

        Storing primed brass (typically in MTM cases) is my MO.

        Loading for me is measure and dump powder, seat bullet, and get pumped for range day. Occasionally crimping is in there somewhere. Not typically.

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        • #5
          tonyjr
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2015
          • 1448

          I deprime a bunch at a time . then clean flash holes and primer pockets , and touch case mouth with reamer .
          Then tumble
          Then I reprime - maybe as many as 4 or 5 calibers at a time .
          I don't use zip lock bags , they go into a loading block / plastic case . Unless a seldom shot caliber , they could sit for a month or to .
          Lately , I have have a hard time finding pills for the 25 , 32 APC ACP and the 41 mag . [ I just found a place that sold me 50 41 mag cases . ]
          life member - CRPA and NRA
          All ways listen - after you can say I new that

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          • #6
            divingin
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2015
            • 2522

            I doubt you'll see any difference at all going from BR to standard primers. I never did. Other than your wallet will be a bit heavier.

            I usually prime cases while I'm bored; I just keep them in a plastic box on the shelf. In reality, it's no different than keeping primers on a shelf (might actually be better since the primed cases are in a semi-airtight container.) I've loaded primers that sat on a shelf for decades, and had no problems with those, so...

            jky

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            • #7
              highpower790
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 3481

              Keep it simple!

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              • #8
                nedro
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2014
                • 4130

                Aren't CCI #41 used for ARs?
                Only assuming because of caliber.

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                • #9
                  highpower790
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 3481

                  Originally posted by nedro
                  Aren't CCI #41 used for ARs?
                  Only assuming because of caliber.
                  41s are a primer that closely duplicates a mil spec primer.Some like to use them for the harder primer cup in semi auto's.
                  Keep it simple!

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                  • #10
                    nedro
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 4130

                    Ya they use them in free float striker designs so when you switch to full auto, there are no worries.
                    Allot of 6.8 guys use them in their ARs.
                    I bought CCI 450s for my 6.8.

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                    • #11
                      koehn,jim
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2013
                      • 643

                      Bench rest primers are more sensitive to ignition than standard. I only use mil-spec primers in gas guns.

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                      • #12
                        tonyjr
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 1448

                        Not really into primers .
                        Would you know if CCI regular and magnum primers are mil-spec ?
                        Other than one 357 revolver , my 357 , 41 , 44 and 50 AE are all desert
                        Eagles .
                        In fact all my semi autos are gas from the 22 lr to the 50 AE and have not
                        had problems
                        FYI - all I use are CCI primers . The last batch I bought were BR - only because that was all they had . I saw not difference .
                        Would you know if CCI makes a BR magnum primer ?
                        life member - CRPA and NRA
                        All ways listen - after you can say I new that

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                        • #13
                          ojisan
                          Agent 86
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 11758

                          Just for fun I left three primers on a shelf in my garage for a year.
                          The shelf was right by the door during the last El Nino rains.
                          While the primers were not out in the rain, they got damp and wet from condensation many times.
                          At the end of the year I primed three empty cases to test the primers...they all went bang on the first hit.

                          Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                          I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                          • #14
                            five.five-six
                            CGN Contributor
                            • May 2006
                            • 34841

                            I have primers from the 1970's. They have not been hermetically sealed and always go bang. No problems.

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                            • #15
                              nedro
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2014
                              • 4130

                              Originally posted by tonyjr
                              Not really into primers .
                              Would you know if CCI regular and magnum primers are mil-spec ?
                              Other than one 357 revolver , my 357 , 41 , 44 and 50 AE are all desert
                              Eagles .
                              In fact all my semi autos are gas from the 22 lr to the 50 AE and have not
                              had problems
                              FYI - all I use are CCI primers . The last batch I bought were BR - only because that was all they had . I saw not difference .
                              Would you know if CCI makes a BR magnum primer ?
                              CCI #41 (Small Rifle Primers) Mil-spec
                              CCI #34 (Large Rifle Primers) Mil-spec
                              CCI #35 Mil-spec for the 50 BMG

                              I do not think CCI makes a Mil-spec Pistol Primer.
                              Magnums ARE NOT Mil-spec primers.

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