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  • Capybara
    CGSSA Coordinator
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2012
    • 15605

    Question about the Forster Bushing Bump Neck Sizer Die set

    I am trying to wrap my head around this. I know for my new RPR in 6.5 CM, using this would be a good thing and would prolong the life of my brass. My question is, for a precision die set overall, what other dies/die set would be good to team this with? The Redding micrometer seating die set? Or does Forster make something better or comparable in regards to a seating die?

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    bigdawg86
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 3554

    I highly recommend Whidden Gunworks dies... I have the micrometer seating die for my 338 Lapua and 6.5 Creedmoor... I purchased their full length bushing sizer and micrometer set and love it.

    I have full length bushing die, neck only bushing die, and micrometer seating die.

    One way or another you are going to need a full length sizer...if you buy once fired brass you will need it and after so many firings you may need it as well.

    So my recommendation is the Whidden set for seating and full length sizing duty.
    Last edited by bigdawg86; 01-25-2017, 5:34 PM.

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      Capybara
      CGSSA Coordinator
      CGN Contributor
      • Feb 2012
      • 15605

      Thanks bigdawg86, good advice. I have not heard of them, do they only do precision die sets? I will look them up. I agree with you about the FL sizer die, I will undoubtedly need that at some point.
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        bigdawg86
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 3554

        Originally posted by Capybara
        Thanks bigdawg86, good advice. I have not heard of them, do they only do precision die sets? I will look them up. I agree with you about the FL sizer die, I will undoubtedly need that at some point.
        They do everything... Precision sets, custom set, you name it... His bushing dies use Redding bushings so you aren't limited by some proprietary design. The one thing you DONT do with his dies is bottom them out on the shell holder. The deck height (don't know if correct term) of his dies are shorter than others which allows complete control... But if you bottom out the die like you would a RCBS or something, you will grossly oversize your brass.

        Not that I have a ton of experience with high end dies... He nails it.

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        • #5
          dwtt
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 7470

          What size brass do people usually use to make 6.5 creedmoor brass from? I've read some people use .308 but others use .22-250, or they buy the very expensive new brass from Hornady or Lapua.

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            bigdawg86
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 3554

            Originally posted by dwtt
            What size brass do people usually use to make 6.5 creedmoor brass from? I've read some people use .308 but others use .22-250, or they buy the very expensive new brass from Hornady or Lapua.
            I converted about 500 Lake city match from 1988 and found the end result to be very decent brass... I converted some RP as well and it's softer brass so I got a little shoulder collapse on several, but they fireformed just fine and are now serving me well.

            The biggest hassle is neck turning...

            It's alot of work if you are going to convert 500 like it did.... But you can knock out 100 without too much effort

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            • #7
              fguffey
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 1408

              Forster Bushing Bump Neck Sizer Die set
              The department that names/identifies dies has got to be a wrestling fan. In the old days they had the 'step over toe hold with a half nelson. And now there is a die set that is a bump die with a bushing. I called a manufacturer of dies to explain the difficult a reloader has when bumping a shoulder back with a bump die. Things were complicated because the manufacture claimed the die was a body die. I explained to them it is impossible to bump the shoulder without case body support meaning the die was not a body die and it was not a bump die; it was a sizing die with a loose neck.

              I have been doing that for years, something like using an 8mm/06 sizing die on a 30/06 case, or a 30/06 sizing die on a 270 Winchester case.

              And still there is the difficult of moving the shoulder, and I ask: "How do you do that?". I find it difficult if not impossible to move the shoulder with a die that has case body support.

              I do have presses that are 'bump' presses, all of my bump presses are cam over presses. All of my cam over presses bump twice; once when the ram goes to the top and again when the ram is lowered. I can adjust my cam over presses to bump or not bump.

              F. Guffey
              Last edited by fguffey; 01-26-2017, 9:51 AM.

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                Capybara
                CGSSA Coordinator
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2012
                • 15605

                For what it's worth, I contacted Forster to see if they are going to offer the Bushing Bump Neck Sizer Die set in 6.5 Creedmoor and the answer was, no, not yet at least. So it's off the table for me anyway. I am going to check out the Whidden Gunworks and Redding sets.

                Their response:

                We will most likely be offering this die at some point, but there are no definite plans as to when we might begin production of them. We are dealing with high demands of the products we already offer and have not felt we have the time available for introducing new ones. We appreciate your interest and will note your request in our Die Inquiry List for future reference.

                Thank you,

                Diane

                Forster Products
                Customer Service
                PO Box 123
                310 E Lanark Ave
                Lanark, IL 61046
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                • #9
                  fguffey
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2010
                  • 1408

                  [QUOTE=Capybara;19568422]For what it's worth, I contacted Forster to see if they are going to offer the Bushing Bump Neck Sizer Die set in 6.5 Creedmoor and the answer was, no, not yet at least. So it's off the table for me anyway. I am going to check out the Whidden Gunworks and Redding sets.

                  Their response:

                  We will most likely be offering this die at some point, but there are no definite plans as to when we might begin production of them. We are dealing with high demands of the products we already offer and have not felt we have the time available for introducing new ones. We appreciate your interest and will note your request in our Die Inquiry List for future reference.

                  Thank you,

                  Diane

                  With a name like bushing bump neck die sizing die it would have been nice had you ask them what the die bumped and how it sized and neck sized the neck at the same time.

                  Anyhow, thanks for the effort.

                  F. Guffey

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                  • #10
                    nedro
                    Veteran Member
                    • Nov 2014
                    • 4130

                    I did allot of reading before buying my dies. It seems that allot of people who swear by Redding dies, like the Forster micrometer dies much better.
                    I have not used the Redding dies, so I don't know exactly why. But I did buy the Forster micrometer dies and am very happy.

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