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  • Skip99
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 30

    30-30 Question

    Hello all, newbie to loading here. I want to start with my 30-30. Looking for bullets I see that the same one can be used for 30-30, .308. 300 Win Mag etc. Why is this when my 30-30 is supposed to have the round nose bullets in the tube?
  • #2
    maxx03
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 1423

    Loading pointed bullets in the tube mag may cause the tip to set off a primer.

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    • #3
      Exodus343
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2012
      • 4745

      Tubular magazine
      Your bullet will touch the next round's primer and so on
      "Adversity Introduces Us To Ourselves"

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      • #4
        Skip99
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 30

        That's my point. I don't get why the manufacturer is listing the same bullet for all those applications.

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        • #5
          rromeo
          Calguns Addict
          • Sep 2009
          • 6981

          Not all 30-30s use tubular magazines.
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          (Revised Eastern Sect Edition)

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          • #6
            WMG
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2016
            • 1159

            Another thing to keep in mind if not already is , not all .308 bullets are made to function as intended at 30-30 speeds.
            For general example a certain bullet made for 300 win mag velocity may not expand as intended when poking along at 30-30 speeds.
            For the record my wife has a lot of years with the Hornady 170gr F.P loaded with Reloder 15 and I will say that bullet has performed very well.

            I also have a 35rem in a Marlin and I do know people who have used pointed bullets in their guns and lived to tell about it HOWEVER it is not advised to do so and if you have ever seen a Remington 14 with it's spiral tube mag , the purpose of that was to keep the bullet tip from contacting the primer in front of it.
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            • #7
              ojisan
              Agent 86
              CGN Contributor
              • Apr 2008
              • 11783

              Once you get dialed in to reloading, you can make "load two" rounds using pointed bullets.
              With these loads, you only "load two" into the magazine tube.
              You lever the action to feed and fire the first one, since there is only one left in the mag then, there is no danger of it going off.
              Otherwise, you do have to use round nose, flat nose or polymer nose bullets in tube mags.

              Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
              I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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              • #8
                MrElectric03
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2010
                • 1590

                You CAN use many different ones but have to be careful. As noted above plated bullets shouldn't go past 1200 fps so generally a no go in a .308/.30-06/.300WM. .30-30 is a great hunting round though so as long as you don't load a bunch in the tube you can use a more aggressive hunting bullet.
                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                So you are throwing out 95% of reality to select the 5% of reality where you are actually right?
                We must be on calguns...

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                • #9
                  Divernhunter
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2010
                  • 8753

                  As pointed out bullets designed for hunting in a 300win mag will have very poor terminal performance at 30-30 speeds.
                  Years ago(before the internet) we loaded Sierra 165gr HPBT hunting bullets in our 30-06. They were terrible. Some deer where hit(good hits) more than once and ran off to be shot by another hunter in our group using different bullets/cartridges. We found nice pencil size holes thru them. I wrote(that is what we did in the stone ages) to Sierra and they responded with a letter saying that that bullet was designed for mag rifles and were not a good choice for the 30-06/308win and such. They did not explain why they had data for that bullet listed for the 30-06/308win/7.62X54/7.5X55 Swiss/300Savage30-40krag. That was one of my 1st lessons on carefully researching and choosing the proper bullet MATCHED to the cartridge and game to be hunted.
                  In fact when I make light loads(read lower speed and recoil) for friends in 30cal I use the 150gr RN bullets designed for the 30-30 so that they get good terminal performance. It works well. If I load those same 30-30 cup-n-core type bullets up to hot 30-06 speed they can fail to do their job.

                  I suggest you stick with bullets designed for the 30-30(150-170gr RN or the Barnes Bullet designed for the 30-30) for better terminal performance and your own safety from having the rounds in the tube touch off.
                  A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                  NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
                  SCI, Manteca Sportsmen Club, Coalinga Rifle Club, Escalon Sportsmans Club, Waterford Sportsman Club & NAHA Member, Madison Society member

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                  • #10
                    Skip99
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2014
                    • 30

                    Learning more every day. So to start with, 30-30 only. Thanks all for the info.

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                    • #11
                      LD-Ordie
                      Junior Member
                      • Mar 2015
                      • 8

                      I've been using 150gr FP designed for a 30-30 from Extreme. $53. for 500. reasonable $$$. Gets even better when you catch their sales

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                      • #12
                        fast54vw
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2010
                        • 637

                        What about using the FTX bullet?
                        NRA Life Member

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                        • #13
                          ElvenSoul
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 17431

                          30-30 used to be available in a bolt action.

                          Still popular in single shot pistol & rifles.
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                          • #14
                            Dnele928
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 685

                            Yes, LeveRevolution by Hornady. As ammo or bullets for reloading. Can buy the LR powder too.

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                            • #15
                              mark501w
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 1699

                              Don't forget to crimp

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