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  • DarkKing
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2016
    • 84

    Load data for Rocky Mountain Reloading 115 Gr FMJ

    Anyone have recommended load data for the RMR 115Grain FMJ






    I have been browsing and can't find anything.
    (I have already sent them a contact email using their form and waiting for their formal response.)

    It also seems this is a newer round and not in a load manual from what i can tell.

    I am not sure if i should use



    115gr FMJ 5.0 gr Bullseye 1,180 fps 1.12" WSP Alliant
    Suggested starting load: 4.5 gr
    Pressure: 31,000

    I just cant find anything for their bullets. I bought 250 of them because free shipping on 250 for 30$'s can't really be beat.
  • #2
    pacrat
    I need a LIFE!!
    • May 2014
    • 10285

    A 115 grn FMJ, is a 115 grn FMJ. Doesn't matter who made it. Load data published for one is same, same as other manufacturers.

    There is always slight variations in published date from different sources. But that is not due to the name on the box of bullets. It is due to variations in testing equipment, powder lot variations, chamber size of test gun, and a butt load of other items. Which even includes the temperature and humidity.

    Those variations in data are irrelevant. It is incumbent on the reloader to do "due diligence" and start well below any maximum load and work up in small increments to a safe level that meets his own requirements for the load.

    Where that does get a bit sticky is to not use Lead core jacketed bullet data, when loading All Copper buzzard proof ammo in a rifle. Without data from the "maker" saying it is OK to do so. Same weight of those is "longer" than lead core. Giving more bearing surface in bore, which increases pressure.

    JM2c

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    • #3
      DarkKing
      Junior Member
      • Dec 2016
      • 84

      Originally posted by pacrat
      A 115 grn FMJ, is a 115 grn FMJ. Doesn't matter who made it. Load data published for one is same, same as other manufacturers.

      There is always slight variations in published date from different sources. But that is not due to the name on the box of bullets. It is due to variations in testing equipment, powder lot variations, chamber size of test gun, and a butt load of other items. Which even includes the temperature and humidity.

      Those variations in data are irrelevant. It is incumbent on the reloader to do "due diligence" and start well below any maximum load and work up in small increments to a safe level that meets his own requirements for the load.

      Where that does get a bit sticky is to not use Lead core jacketed bullet data, when loading All Copper buzzard proof ammo in a rifle. Without data from the "maker" saying it is OK to do so. Same weight of those is "longer" than lead core. Giving more bearing surface in bore, which increases pressure.

      JM2c

      I guess my biggest worry is COL as i know if its to long it can get stuck if its to short it can blow.

      I am seeing some people say 4.6 Gr and a COL of 1.135 and then 4.6-5.0 with a COL of 1.125 lol.

      I am seeing some variation lol.

      my loading manual only has JHP for 115gr lol so it lists a far lower COL and powder charges as well.

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      • #4
        DarkKing
        Junior Member
        • Dec 2016
        • 84

        After reading a lot and using my lynmann manual and handloads website and other posts I am thinking.

        115GR FMJ with COL/OAL at 1.12 with bullseye @4.6 gr.

        I will be using a Glock 19 with this ammo and I am thinking of a 9mm carbine/rifle later on as well due to the ease of reloading the 9mm.

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        • #5
          mike_w
          Junior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 36

          Originally posted by DarkKing
          I guess my biggest worry is COL as i know if its to long it can get stuck if its to short it can blow.

          I am seeing some people say 4.6 Gr and a COL of 1.135 and then 4.6-5.0 with a COL of 1.125 lol.

          I am seeing some variation lol.

          my loading manual only has JHP for 115gr lol so it lists a far lower COL and powder charges as well.
          Just don't start at the max load and plunk test to verify COAL isnt too long
          Last edited by mike_w; 01-03-2017, 3:55 AM. Reason: Inability to spell correctly

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          • #6
            DarkKing
            Junior Member
            • Dec 2016
            • 84

            Originally posted by mike_w
            Just don't start at the max load and plunk test to verify COAL isnt too long
            Max recommended is 5.0 GR with bullseye according to the handloads chart.
            and others list at 5.1 so I will stay away from that one.

            they recommended we start at 4.5 so I am going to do 4.6 gr(its what the lee pro has)

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            • #7
              slamfire1
              Banned
              • Aug 2015
              • 794

              I own a David Sams custom Beretta M92 built for Bullseye Pistol. Mr Sams recommended pushing the bullets between 1150 and 1200 fps with Power Pistol. I conducted load testing with RMR plated and various other bullets and with Titegroup. My data is as follows:


              Code:
              [SIZE="3"][B]M92 FS Beretta  Bar Sto Barrel	[/B]	
              					
              115 Full Metal Case Master Factory Ammo 		
              	20-Jun-09	T = 90 °F			
              					
              Ave Vel =1180	 			
              Std Dev =10.19				
              ES =	33.27				
              High =	1197				
              Low =	1167				
              N =	8				
              					
              					
              115 gr RMR Plated RN 6.0 grs Power Pistol lot 3-16 WSP OAL 1.150"  Mag Length crimp 0.375"	
              
              15-Sep-16	T = 94 °F			
              					
              Ave Vel =1175				
              Std Dev =22				
              ES =	81				
              Low =	1130				
              High =	1211				
              N =	20				 
              					
              Very accurate				
              					
              					
              115 gr XTP Hornady HP 0.355" 6.0 grs Power Pistol lot 3-16 WSP OAL 1.10" crimp 0.375"
              
              15-Sep-16	T = 95 °F				
              					
              Ave Vel =1161	 	 
              Std Dev =54	 	 	 
              ES =	197	 	 	 
              Low =	1111	 	 	 
              High =	1308	 	 	 
              N =	11				 
              					
              Very accurate but rounds would not feed, jam on barrel ramp. 	
              One seated very deep produced 1247 fps, not included in data	
              					
              					
              					
              115 gr FMJ Hornady 0.355" 6.0 grs Power Pistol lot 3-16 WSP OAL 1.15" crimp 0.375" 
              
              15-Sep-16	T = 95 °F				
              					
              Ave Vel =1187			 	 
              Std Dev =16			 	 
              ES =	58			 	 
              Low =1157			 	 
              High =1215			 	 
              N =	9	 			
              					
              v accurate. 					
              					
              					
              115 gr RMR Plated RN 4.2 grs Titegroup lot 4-16 WSP OAL 1.150"  Mag Length crimp 0.375"	
              
              15-Sep-16	T = 95 °F			
              					
              Ave Vel =1092				
              Std Dev =20				
              ES =	73				
              Low =1065				
              High =1138				
              N =	16				
              					
              very accurate					
              					
              115 gr FMJ Hornady 0.355" 4.2 grs Titegroup lot 4-16 WSP OAL 1.15" 	crimp 0.375"
              
              15-Sep-16	T = 95 °F				
              					
              Ave Vel =1108			 	 
              Std Dev =26			 	 
              ES =	75			 	 
              Low =1074			 	 
              High =1149			 	 
              N =	9	 			
              				[/SIZE]











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              • #8
                Yetiultimate
                Member
                • Feb 2016
                • 225

                Originally posted by DarkKing
                After reading a lot and using my lynmann manual and handloads website and other posts I am thinking.

                115GR FMJ with COL/OAL at 1.12 with bullseye @4.6 gr.

                I will be using a Glock 19 with this ammo and I am thinking of a 9mm carbine/rifle later on as well due to the ease of reloading the 9mm.
                Last week I loaded XTreme 115gr RN pills with 4.6gr of W231, COL 1.125, and ran them through my Glock 43 and 9mm carbine yesterday. They both ran like tops, had no failures to feed or eject, and accuracy was good (for plinking steel at 25,35,45yds). I also loaded the same round with 3.5gr of W231 and the Glock wouldn't cycle reliably. The carbine, however, was smooooooth like a sewing machine and very quiet.

                Different powder, I know. Just sharing my experience.

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                • #9
                  pacrat
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • May 2014
                  • 10285

                  Mike above has good advice.

                  Far to many Noobs spend far to much time head scratching and stressing over COAL.

                  If it fits and cycles through your magazine. And fits and cycles through you pistol. It is GTG.

                  Choot em.............just verify fits/cycles first.

                  Enjoy

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                  • #10
                    zvardan
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 657

                    That's not entirely true. If you press the projectile too deep you'll increase the pressure upon firing. Depending on your load this could be bad news. Im thinking near max-max loads would be the. Kat. Abuse for concern.

                    For rounds with cannelure I don't even measure the oal any longer.

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                    • #11
                      potguts
                      • May 2014
                      • 615

                      Originally posted by DarkKing
                      Anyone have recommended load data for the RMR 115Grain FMJ

                      ...
                      I've loaded and chrono'd a bunch of the RMR 115 FMJ.

                      I had to load them at 1.120 in order to plunk in my CZ. With a glock, I wouldn't worry too much about OAL, you could probably go as long as 1.150 with no issues. But as always, you should do the plunk test and find out what the limit is for your gun.

                      Is bullseye the only powder you have?

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                      • #12
                        DarkKing
                        Junior Member
                        • Dec 2016
                        • 84

                        Originally posted by potguts
                        I've loaded and chrono'd a bunch of the RMR 115 FMJ.

                        I had to load them at 1.120 in order to plunk in my CZ. With a glock, I wouldn't worry too much about OAL, you could probably go as long as 1.150 with no issues. But as always, you should do the plunk test and find out what the limit is for your gun.

                        Is bullseye the only powder you have?
                        YES but I can get titewad, universal locally but that is it. Other than that I have to have it shipped and I can only get a few things shipped to STORE for basspro which is a 30 min drive away.


                        I can get universal from turners locally and titewad from a local gunshop.

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                        • #13
                          gotglock99
                          Member
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 133

                          115 grn C.O.L 1.150. 4.6 grn Win 231 or you can Titegroup 4.1 grn
                          My loads for 115 grn 9mm

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