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  • garyngwind
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 363

    first time reloading: how clean does the brass need to be?

    Over the weekend I finally got to start my first reloading experience by cleaning the empty cases. Soaked the brass overnight in the hot water/vinegar/soap/salt solution, next morning found some of them looks decent, but looks like it can do better. So soak it again in another fresh solution, plus some semi-violent shaking. A few brass were mirror finish on the inside, but majority of them still have visible dark spot.
    Today I gave in and bought a ultrasonic cleaner, and run the whole batch through it, again the solution came out dirty, but more than half the brass still look dirty inside.
    I know i can run smaller batches in the ultrasonic to be more thorough, but my question is, how clean do the brass have to be? Clean enough so that a quick swab with a Qtip will still come out white?
  • #2
    packnrat
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 3939

    some just push out the spent primer and install new.
    others run all brass through a wet tumbler and get brand new shinny brass.

    it is a what ever floats your boat.

    i side more to the clean side. and approve of the wet clean. as apposed to the dry media.

    but then i pop old primers out, resize everything, wet clean. then through the press. a bit over kill and added work to get it done.
    for a gen shooting i have buckets of clean brass just waiting for new lead.
    do five - six thousand at a time. yes i tend to shoot a lot. wish i could get a sponsor.

    the "better" loadings i am a bit picky about, weigh out every powder load. reload one at a time.
    big gun's...i love big gun's

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    • #3
      dhagerty
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 90

      I am an old timer, I just lube the cases and resize them, throw them in my tumbler with walnut shell media for about an hour to get the lube off and a quick cleaning. then remove any media that gets stuck in the primer pockets and flash holes. After that I just reload them.

      Now my shooting buddy though has never cleaned a case in his life and he is a 3 time National champion in Pistol Silhouette
      Daniel Hagerty
      NRA life member
      IHMSA CA State Director
      IHMSA# 42084L
      IHMSA News Editor

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      • #4
        MarikinaMan
        Veteran Member
        • Nov 2015
        • 4864

        For plinking, as long as it doesn't wear or damage the dies. Let'er rip!

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        • #5
          WMG
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 1159

          I don't tumble nor try and shove dirt baked on crap into my dies. After re-sizing the typical case , it comes out of the die a little cleaner than it went in.
          Same dies for over 20 yrs.
          If you start thinking like a Free Man
          You'll begin to feel like a Free Man
          And pretty soon you'll begin acting like a Free Man

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          • #6
            ar15robert
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2002
            • 2496

            atleast clean in soap water t oremove the dirt and crud.

            I likle shiny clean brass so i went tumble with ss pins.I use to use a tumbler with walnut or corn media but hated poking the primer pockets after and the insides were still dusty or dirty.

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            • #7
              garyngwind
              Member
              • May 2010
              • 363

              Thanks guys, I was wondering how does the "dry tumbler" guys do it? I mean, wouldn't the cob or walnut but a mess to remove from the casing afterwards? With 223 I had to shake them one by one just to get water out.

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              • #8
                someoneeasy
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 2372

                Originally posted by garyngwind
                Thanks guys, I was wondering how does the "dry tumbler" guys do it? I mean, wouldn't the cob or walnut but a mess to remove from the casing afterwards? With 223 I had to shake them one by one just to get water out.
                "dry tumbler" guys use a media separator. Still a lot less of a mess and hassle than having to deal with liquids and having to dry the brass before using.

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                • #9
                  Jimi Jah
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2014
                  • 18897

                  10 minutes in the ultrasonic cleaner and I'm done. The innards are clean. The brass doesn't look all shiny like a tumbler but it's functionally fine. Heck, it's only 10 minutes, not two hours.

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                  • #10
                    someoneeasy
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2372

                    Originally posted by Jimi Jah
                    10 minutes in the ultrasonic cleaner and I'm done. The innards are clean. The brass doesn't look all shiny like a tumbler but it's functionally fine. Heck, it's only 10 minutes, not two hours.
                    How do you dry the brass and how long does it take?

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                    • #11
                      dsouza411
                      Member
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 283

                      Originally posted by someoneeasy
                      How do you dry the brass and how long does it take?


                      I throw the brass in there for 45 mins, or on summer days lay the brass out on a baking sheet and let the sun do the rest.

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                      • #12
                        MarikinaMan
                        Veteran Member
                        • Nov 2015
                        • 4864

                        Originally posted by someoneeasy
                        "dry tumbler" guys use a media separator. Still a lot less of a mess and hassle than having to deal with liquids and having to dry the brass before using.
                        I regret putting the money into my dry tumbler. I too thought wet tumbling is a hassle, until I got tired of prepping brass by the 500s.

                        I got a wet tumbler to simply my workflow.

                        For new to me once fired brass:
                        1) pre wash for 15 minutes and dry
                        2) decap and resize
                        3) swage (as needed)
                        4) trim with 3 way cutting head (trims and chamfers)
                        5) wet tumble to deburr and clean primer pockets, then dry
                        6) load

                        For my own fired cases:
                        1) wet tumble
                        2) decap, resize and dry
                        3) load

                        Drying, I put them in a colander and put a fan to it. Theyre dry by the next morning.
                        Last edited by MarikinaMan; 12-27-2016, 12:08 PM.

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                        • #13
                          ElDub1950
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 5688

                          I don't worry about it much. I throw a bunch of brass in a 1 gallon plastic jug with water, dish soap, vinegar & salt.

                          Shake it up for a few minutes then let it set. I'll shake it for another minute or so every 30 minutes or whenever I pass the jar on the counter. After 2-4 hours I dump it into a strainer and rinse it, put it back in the jar, fill with water and shake for awhile. If I see any soap bubbles I'll rinse again. Sometimes I'll add some Lemishine to the last rinse.

                          Dump it on a baking sheet and put it in the sun for a few hours or in a 150 over for a couple of hours.

                          If I were doing necked rounds or precision something, I'd probably be more thorough but for for range plinking pistol rounds, 'pretty' doesn't matter to me.

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                          • #14
                            Win231
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 2099

                            The brass only needs to be clean enough to inspect for cracks. I tumble with a capful of "Berry's Brass Bright." After two hours, cases look like gold.

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                            • #15
                              scamp62
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2010
                              • 1009

                              I personal do not like running dirty brass into my expensive die's, I just can't believe it is good for them.
                              as far as drying the brass, if it is just a batch of 50 i use a heat gun.
                              For bigger batches I use:

                              at $25.00 it works just as well as the "Brass Dryer" I have been using mine for 6 years with no problems.

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