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  • Julios
    Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 120

    Powder charges..

    Got a question guys, how accurate the powder drop is, on every charge I get a bit different reading and I checked it on 2 different scales..
    I have the lnl ap..

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    jericho89
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1129

    Accuracy differs with each powder system and the type of powder that you are using? The finer ball powders drop with more consistency and stick powders can be all over the pace. What powder are you using and what is your weight deviation?

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      KahrMan
      Member
      • Aug 2016
      • 458

      Pistol or rifle charge....what powder(s). Also, are you using a digital scale, mine fluctuates a bit that 's why I rely on a balance beam for consistency.
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      • #4
        DazedandConfuzed
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 559

        To get consistent drops I have to "knock or tap" the handle of the powder measure a few times (3), each time to get the powder to settle. I too use a beam style scale and generally get .1gr or less variance. I use a Redding 3BR measure.

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          Julios
          Member
          • Jul 2012
          • 120

          Originally posted by jericho89
          Accuracy differs with each powder system and the type of powder that you are using? The finer ball powders drop with more consistency and stick powders can be all over the pace. What powder are you using and what is your weight deviation?
          HS6, I'm doing few 115gr 9mm , I started with the lowest gr. 5.7,I do get around 6 out of 10 shots but then it goes to 5.8 sometimes 5.9 then down to 5.8,5.7..

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            Julios
            Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 120

            Originally posted by KahrMan
            Pistol or rifle charge....what powder(s). Also, are you using a digital scale, mine fluctuates a bit that 's why I rely on a balance beam for consistency.
            Pistol,HS6 powder with rem primers,and I used 2 digital scales..

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              Win231
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2015
              • 2099

              While some powders meter more consistently than others, there is at least a tenth of a grain variation in the scale and another tenth of a grain variation in the powder measure. So there will likely be at least two tenths of a grain variation from charge to charge - not enough to have an effect on accuracy, really. There are other factors like static, temperature in the room, etc. Operating the handle at the same speed & hitting the stops up & down with the same impact each time will help.

              I clean a new powder measure's drum with alcohol & run about 50 powder drops before weighing to coat the inside of the drum with powder residue. And before charging cases, I'll drop at least 10 charges to settle the powder in the hopper.
              Last edited by Win231; 09-02-2016, 11:54 AM.

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                Julios
                Member
                • Jul 2012
                • 120

                Originally posted by Win231
                While some powders meter more consistently than others, there is at least a tenth of a grain variation in the scale and another tenth of a grain variation in the powder measure. So there will likely be at least two tenths of a grain variation from charge to charge - not enough to have an effect on accuracy, really. There are other factors like static, temperature in the room, etc. Operating the handle at the same speed & hitting the stops up & down with the same impact each time will help.

                I clean a new powder measure's drum with alcohol & run about 50 powder drops before weighing to coat the inside of the drum with powder residue. And before charging cases, I'll drop at least 10 charges to settle the powder in the hopper.
                Ok,good to know,thanks..

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                  Julios
                  Member
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 120

                  I been also weighing a complete round on one I have around 182.4,other 185.6.. and it should be around 5.7 5.8gr on those two rounds..

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                  • #10
                    Bill Steele
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 5028

                    Originally posted by Julios
                    I been also weighing a complete round on one I have around 182.4,other 185.6.. and it should be around 5.7 5.8gr on those two rounds..

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                    Win231 had it all right.

                    Don't bother weighing finished rounds, the variance in brass, bullet weight makes it impossible to tell anything about the powder charge.
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                      Julios
                      Member
                      • Jul 2012
                      • 120

                      Ok good, measuring everything it's making crazy lol

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                      • #12
                        dsouza411
                        Member
                        • Mar 2016
                        • 283

                        Like others have stated, clean the powder drop thoroughly. I myself use HS6 in the LNL and have had consistent measurements, in regards to charge weight.

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                          Julios
                          Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 120

                          Ok,I'll try that..

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                            jericho89
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 1129

                            Originally posted by Julios
                            Ok good, measuring everything it's making crazy lol
                            YES it will. Try weighing a hand full of projectiles and a hand full of empty brass and see how much variance you get between them.

                            As for powder drop when you actuate your powder drop you should be consistent with how you throw the lever. I am rather aggressive so that it will settle the powder with each throw, but it also makes things more consistent. If you are soft once and violent the next time you will get a lot of variance.

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                              Julios
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 120

                              Ok I'll try that, thanks..

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