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  • uechikid
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1409

    Powder Suggestions For 223 & 308

    I've decided to start reloading the two rifle calibers we shoot. 223 and 308. I've been reloading for pistol but with the new ammo laws coming soon I thought I'd get setup for rifle as well.
    I'm looking for powder suggestions. I was hoping to use the same powder for both but looking at my manuals it appears that there are only a few powders that will accomplish this. And, one powder might be great for one and only OK for the other. I will start loading 55gr FMJ in the 223 and 168gr HPBT or FMJ in the 308.

    Thanks
    "Carpe Diem"
  • #2
    highpower790
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3481

    Varget,RL 15,IMR4895
    Keep it simple!

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    • #3
      bazineta
      Senior Member
      CGN Contributor
      • Jun 2015
      • 647

      There are several options available. As of late, I've been using AR-Comp, which will handle both, as you've requested.

      It's a fairly short extruded powder, so it meters nicely. Temperature stable. To me, it's like Swedish Varget. The Nosler site has recently added a lot of load data for it; might check there. I haven't had any problems finding it locally; seems if anyone around here carries powder at all, they'll have AR-Comp.

      In 308, my favorite load for it is Lake City brass, CCI 200 primer, 40.0 gr AR-Comp, with a 168 SMK.

      Very nice powder IMO.

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      • #4
        highpower790
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 3481

        Originally posted by bazineta
        There are several options available. As of late, I've been using AR-Comp, which will handle both, as you've requested.

        It's a fairly short extruded powder, so it meters nicely. Temperature stable. To me, it's like Swedish Varget. The Nosler site has recently added a lot of load data for it; might check there. I haven't had any problems finding it locally; seems if anyone around here carries powder at all, they'll have AR-Comp.

        In 308, my favorite load for it is Lake City brass, CCI 200 primer, 40.0 gr AR-Comp, with a 168 SMK.

        Very nice powder IMO.
        Varget is Australian mate.
        Keep it simple!

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        • #5
          bazineta
          Senior Member
          CGN Contributor
          • Jun 2015
          • 647

          Originally posted by highpower790
          Varget is Australian mate.
          Last edited by bazineta; 08-09-2016, 12:35 PM.

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          • #6
            Bill Steele
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2010
            • 5028

            I think a lot depends on how you plan to load them, what your goals, etc.

            If you want to load them on a progressive and pump out autoloader volumes, stick with a ball powder or very small grain extruded. If you are going the drop and trickle route for great precision, the metering characteristics are less important.

            I frankly think the fixation many have on wanting a single powder for multiple calibers/bullets is the wrong approach. Get what works best in each caliber, but that is just me.
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            • #7
              bigdawg86
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              • Mar 2012
              • 3554

              BLC2

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              • #8
                Citadelgrad87
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                • Mar 2007
                • 16929

                I fell in love with 4064 for my .30 rifles, and 7.62 based rifles like .243, before I started loading for 5.62. No way I'm dumping my 4064 recipes and development, and fifteen seconds of trying to get extruded powder to go into a 556 neck told me this one size doesn't fit all.

                So I bought a bunch of TAC, and it dumps in tiny necks like talcum powder.
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                • #9
                  sghart
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1225

                  I like W748.

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                  • #10
                    painkiller
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 940

                    H335,h/imr 4895
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                    • #11
                      Divernhunter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2010
                      • 8753

                      I have used Win 748 for many years with excellent results
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                      • #12
                        baih777
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 5680

                        Benchmark or H335
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                        • #13
                          uechikid
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 1409

                          I just purchased a Dillon XL650 for this purpose but I don't anticipate cranking out large amounts of ammo any time soon. Just like with my SDB, slow and cautious until i'm very comfortable with all aspects of reloading rifle rounds.
                          "Carpe Diem"

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                          • #14
                            Bigtls1
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 579

                            My favorites are H335 for .223 and Varget for .308. They can be interchanged, but to get better performance you should have one powder for each.

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                            • #15
                              Paul_R
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 2847

                              Ramshot X-Terminator and TAC. If only one I'd choose TAC for those two calibers.
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