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  • Lead Waster
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Sep 2010
    • 16650

    Reminder to wear safety glasses while reloading!

    I was reloading some 9mm on my 1050, about 10 rounds into a new mag full of primers, "something gets stuck" so, since I'm an old man, I tilt my glasses up on my head so I can see more clearly what is stuck, with some fiddling (and foolishly lifting the ratchet on the 1050 toolhead) I manage to move the handle, the toolhead comes down (luckily) and I hear a loud POP! And for a minute, my ear is ringing and I could feel stuff hit my face. My nose is bleeding a bit. My glasses are still popped up on top of my head.

    So what happened? Not really sure, but the entire primer magazine detonated. At first I thought I might have rotated a primed case back to the swaging station, but if the primer stack blew, that makes no sense. But what I know is that the plastic tip of the primer magazine blew up UNDER the shellplate, and several primer anvils and cups were strewn about, that's what hit me in the face. A call to Dillon had repair parts in the mail and got to me in a few days ...

    But the important lesson learned was that I (almost literally) dodged a bullet, a primer anvil or cup hit me square in the face enough to cut my nose and that could easily have been one of my eyes. I wear glasses, but since I'm old, my near vision is bad and I have to remove my glasses to see up close. Big mistake that almost cost me huge.

    From now on, clear goggles will replace my Rx safety glasses if I ever need to examine anything on the press, or I'm adding stick on magnifiers to my glasses.

    I used to wear e-muffs too, but I got lax with my ear and eye pro. Luckily popping primers is not as loud as a gunshot, and luckily Dillon's primer magazine shield is very stout.

    So, take this warning and keep your eyes protected!

    Some images to hammer the point home.

    Oh, yeah, mistake number two ... extracting the primer magazine from the primer shield. I hosed down the tube with WD-40 to kill any un fired primers, but Dillon recommends tossing the whole thing, since they'll send you a new one anyway. If a live primer started a reaction on any other un fired primers left in the tube, that might have gone worse. As it was, I pulled the burst primer mag out of the shield with a vice and pliers.








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    SWalt
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2012
    • 8702

    Thanks OP for sharing! It pays to have at least safety glasses. I'm glad nothing worse happened to you. Reloading is inherently dangerous and 1 mistake can cost you a lot. Usually the first thing that comes to mind is "WTF did I just do?!?!?"
    ^^^The above is just an opinion.

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    • #3
      Lead Waster
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Sep 2010
      • 16650

      I used to wear gloves when loading the primer tubes too. But the last time I loaded tubes, I did about 6 of them, in the family room on the coffee table. Bare hands, bare face.

      Every once in a while we need a quick reminder. Sort of like when your pet dog gives you a nip for trying to take away his unfinished dinner ... "hey, I can still bite you".
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      • #4
        Win231
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2015
        • 2099

        I don't load on a progressive, BUT when I hand prime, I not only wear my regular Rx glasses because I'm nearsighted, I also wear a clear face shield. Cheap insurance against blindness & I'd rather not have anything hit my face....it may not be the prettiest, but it's the only one I've got.

        I cringe when I see a shooter who is too macho to wear eye protection. A couple of years ago, I was having fun with my S&W 500 when a piece of copper embedded itself 1/4 inch in my upper arm (it must have come out of the compensator). Really took some pulling to get it out; it was melted in. If it hit my eye....bye bye eye.

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        • #5
          jericho89
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2011
          • 1129

          I had a similar issue with my 650 about 20 years ago. The best I could figure is that the primer did not fall all the way into the primer disk and when it rotated it popped off the primer and the entire battery of primers. at that time Dillon sent me an entire primer system. It was most likely due to a dirty primer system that hung up the primer. Not sure how he primer system is on a 1050 but glad to hear that you did not seriously hurt yourself.

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          • #6
            slamfire1
            Banned
            • Aug 2015
            • 794

            I am glad you were not hurt worse, loosing an eye would be terrible.

            I would like your permission to use your pictures in future posts. I frequently warn people about primers being unpredictable and your pictures sure make the point.

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            • #7
              McGuiver
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2016
              • 1022

              Glad to hear you (Lead Waster) are OK. Primers are the most dangerous part of reloading. There is a reason they store primer compound under water when manufacturing. Could you imagine what a cup or pint of primer compound would do if it detonated. Talk about a bad luck day. Glasses are a must.


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              • #8
                roc_my_tims
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 1527

                any suggestions what someone could use if they wear rx glass but feel they dont cover enough of your eye area or face. would prefer no full on sheld but anyone have safety glasses that go over ex glasses nicely.

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                • #9
                  Rusty Scabbard
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2010
                  • 591

                  Thanks for the reminder and glad you were lucky. Seeing the blown up magazine picture makes me think a pair of 'Depends' could have been helpful too.

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                  • #10
                    CGT80
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 2981

                    I had a single primer and a few grains of fast pistol powder go off in my 1050. I was expecting it to happen since some primers were separating when deprimed and only the bottom of the primer would pop out of those cases. Luckily, I had pulled my face back for that part of the stroke and I had my headphones on which are open style but still take the edge off the clanking of the brass in the feeder, so they softened the sound of the primer a tad. It did not surprise me when it went off and I was trying to be soft with the press and feel for any bad brass.

                    After that, I was even more careful and I used my pro ears to plug my tablet into, for music and just in case I blew another primer or the dreaded entire stack. Now I have used up most of that iffy brass and went back to the headphones, but am careful and did run across one more of those separated primers which I pulled at the swagging station.

                    The audio quality is crap on the pro ears, for music, otherwise I might use them all the time to block out the clanking of the machine. I have prescription glasses that I always wear, so there is always some protection and I try to keep my face back. The only time I used a full face shield was when I had proud primers on loaded ammo. For that I had long sleeves, heavy welding gloves, ear pro, and a face shield. After placing the round in the rcbs bench primer, I put one hand by my side and the other on the handle, while I stood back a bit. As I predicted, everything went fine and the risk was low, but the gear should have done a good job if the crap hit the fan.

                    That is a great warning about the glasses and one I have not run into, since I can always see better with glasses than without. When I did construction work, the prescription glasses saved my but a few times because I wouldn't have bothered with safety glasses in those cases. One time, I was working in a tbar ceiling, and a tied off tbar wire scratched a lens. It would have been my eye, before I started wearing prescription glasses full time.
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                    • #11
                      CGT80
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 2981

                      Originally posted by roc_my_tims
                      any suggestions what someone could use if they wear rx glass but feel they dont cover enough of your eye area or face. would prefer no full on sheld but anyone have safety glasses that go over ex glasses nicely.
                      safety glasses don't fit over my frames. Maybe I have a fat head (the thinking one) but it doesn't seem like my glasses are wider than my head. In the garage, I use full face shields. There are web sites that offer prescription safety glasses and motorsport/snowboard goggles. My snowboarding goggles are made to go over glasses, so I had to use them with my off road helmet as well, or visa versa.

                      Other guys had no problem putting safety glasses over prescription, but it looked prone to problems with wearing two pairs.
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                      • #12
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44094

                        Originally posted by roc_my_tims
                        any suggestions what someone could use if they wear rx glass but feel they dont cover enough of your eye area or face. would prefer no full on sheld but anyone have safety glasses that go over ex glasses nicely.




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                        • #13
                          Lead Waster
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 16650

                          Feel free to repost the pics if you like.

                          My Rx safety glasses cost $6. I got them as free glasses from an Internet Rx glasses company. I paid $6 for shipping.

                          But my Rx has changed for close vision. Stick on magnifiers should work.
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                          • #14
                            Pauliedad
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                            • Dec 2012
                            • 2095

                            Thanks for the reminders.
                            I too have gotten a bit complacent with primers. I'll clean up the face sheild and keep it handy.
                            The other precaution I added some time back was grounding my XL 650
                            After loading a tube of primers I touch the top of the tube (farthest away from the primers in the tube) to a bare metal spot on my now grounded machine.

                            This new set of practices started after I read an account of presumed static electrify causing a tube of primers to detonate. It made sense to me given all the sliding around on plastic the primers get to endure making their way to the tube.
                            In that account, it was even suggested to alligator clip a wire to the tube while loading the tube so that the tube could never hold any charge with the primers sliding down the tube.

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                            • #15
                              Win231
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2015
                              • 2099

                              Originally posted by roc_my_tims
                              any suggestions what someone could use if they wear rx glass but feel they dont cover enough of your eye area or face. would prefer no full on sheld but anyone have safety glasses that go over ex glasses nicely.
                              These are designed to go over Rx glasses & offer side protection as well. I use them for shooting:

                              http://www.envirosafetyproducts.com/ (type in "eye protection" & "search")

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