Reloading Press Warranties

[evergladesbear]

I have been trying to decide which progressive reloading press to purchase. It has been a choice for me between the Hornady L-N-L, the Dillon 550B/650 or the RCBS Pro-2000. I am concerned with the stated RCBS policy on their website. I know a lot of you folks have had excellent luck with RCBS, but I am still worried because of their lack of a decent stated warranty. In fact, for all practical purposes, they offer no warranty at all. My point:

http://www.rcbs.com/Help/Warranty.aspx

LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY
Reloading Press, Die, Manual Case Trimmer or Bullet Mould
Your reloading press, reloading die, manual case trimmer or bullet mould is warranted to be free from defects in material or workmanship for*as long as the original owner owns it. This warranty is extended only to the original consumer purchaser. This warranty excludes any electrical components or products. All RCBS products are intended for non-commercial use by hobbyists. Any other use of these products will void the warranty. Should you believe that your reloading press, die, manual case trimmer or bullet mould is defective in material or workmanship, you must return the reloading press, reloading die, manual case trimmer or bullet mould to Ammunition Accessories Inc. through its Oroville operation (hereinafter "Oroville Operations") postage paid for evaluation. If defective, the product will be repaired or replaced at Oroville Operations' option, at no charge.
Send a dated proof of purchase to Oroville Operations along with the product information and reason for return to:
Ammunition Accessories Inc., Oroville Operations
605 Oro Dam Blvd
Oroville, California 95965

Warranty services cannot be provided without meeting the above requirements.

So -
Original owner only - ?
Ship it back to the factory for inspection - ??

RCBS must be kidding. The cost, inconvenience and time lost of shipping a press to them for inspection in order for them to honor their warranty is in my opinion, unrealistic and unprecedented - especially when compared to the other manufacturers of reloading equipment.

Also, if I decide I don't like it for any reason, then want to sell it - no warranty to new owner. Both Dillon and Hornady seem to offer outstanding warranties and support with no restrictions. The choice between them boils down to features, how they work etc., but never have to worry about warranty coverage or service from either.

Not sure how RCBS can stay in business with a business model like this.

Thanks. I would appreciate hearing about the experiences folks here have had.

[Paseclipse]

I have a Pro2000 and it's a very solid press, the chances of something breaking is pretty slim. I did screw a few things up tinkering with it and RCBS didn't hesitate to send me new parts.. At no charge. They are well known for this.

Any particular reason why you want a Pro2000? It's a little dated now and there are other progressive presses available that have newer features.

[desertjosh]

When I bought my hornady lnl, my wife bumped into the powder drop and destroyed the linkage. I called hornady and they were awesome. I admitted fault obviously and they still covered everything under warranty and shipped everything fast for free. I was so impressed by them I made a thread about it

[desertjosh]

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1171299

Here is the thread I started

[Divernhunter]

I have not had any trouble with Dillon, RCBS or Hornady for Warr. I have presses and other equipment from all three. I have used the war on stuff I bought used without a question from RCBS and Hornady. All my stuff from Dillon I got new but do not keep the receipts. Also some lee stuff but their war has been a nightmare and they have never replaced anything. They also required me to send in the part for inspection with the receipt........like I really save them.
That said buy the Dillon and be done with it.

[GILMORE619]

Wow! It's nice to have some people post that own an RCBS progressive.
It's usually a Red VS Blue in here.
Red meaning Lee too Stilly

[fguffey]

Thanks. I would appreciate hearing about the experiences folks here have had.

My experience: I can predict the outcome when a Lee reloader decides he is going to try a RCBS piece of equipment, there has to be something about RCBS reloaders the Lee reloiader does not like and I know they are not going to find anything they like about RCBS.

Fair and objective; not going to happen. I do not recommend RCBS tools to Lee users, I do that to avoid blame.

F. Guffey

[rm1911]

Get a Dillon. Period. It's more than the warranty. Their no BS warranty is really no BS. And it's for the press, not the original owner. But buy Dillon because it's by far the best press. Period.

Is it more expensive? Yeah. But 20 years from now it will still be cranking out tons of great ammo ( although this is kalifornia. 20 years from now we'll be limited to single shot 22 rifles) and you will not remember how much you paid but will be thankful you paid whatever it was. And realize it was a deal.

My 25 year old SDB is still cranking out ammo like there's no tomorrow, because in this state, there probably isn't.

Just get a Dillon.

[McGuiver]

Reloading Press Warranties

I have been trying to decide which progressive reloading press to purchase. It has been a choice for me between the Hornady L-N-L, the Dillon 550B/650 or the RCBS Pro-2000. I am concerned with the stated RCBS policy on their website. I know a lot of you folks have had excellent luck with RCBS, but I am still worried because of their lack of a decent stated warranty. In fact, for all practical purposes, they offer no warranty at all. My point:

http://www.rcbs.com/Help/Warranty.aspx

LIMITED LIFETIME WARRANTY

Reloading Press, Die, Manual Case Trimmer or Bullet Mould

Your reloading press, reloading die, manual case trimmer or bullet mould is warranted to be free from defects in material or workmanship for*as long as the original owner owns it. This warranty is extended only to the original consumer purchaser. This warranty excludes any electrical components or products. All RCBS products are intended for non-commercial use by hobbyists. Any other use of these products will void the warranty. Should you believe that your reloading press, die, manual case trimmer or bullet mould is defective in material or workmanship, you must return the reloading press, reloading die, manual case trimmer or bullet mould to Ammunition Accessories Inc. through its Oroville operation (hereinafter "Oroville Operations") postage paid for evaluation. If defective, the product will be repaired or replaced at Oroville Operations' option, at no charge.

Send a dated proof of purchase to Oroville Operations along with the product information and reason for return to:

Ammunition Accessories Inc., Oroville Operations
605 Oro Dam Blvd
Oroville, California 95965



Warranty services cannot be provided without meeting the above requirements.



So -

Original owner only - ?

Ship it back to the factory for inspection - ??



RCBS must be kidding. The cost, inconvenience and time lost of shipping a press to them for inspection in order for them to honor their warranty is in my opinion, unrealistic and unprecedented - especially when compared to the other manufacturers of reloading equipment.



Also, if I decide I don't like it for any reason, then want to sell it - no warranty to new owner. Both Dillon and Hornady seem to offer outstanding warranties and support with no restrictions. The choice between them boils down to features, how they work etc., but never have to worry about warranty coverage or service from either.



Not sure how RCBS can stay in business with a business model like this.



Thanks. I would appreciate hearing about the experiences folks here have had.

I have had 2 Lee presses, and currently have a RCBS press and a Dillon press. For a progressive I would buy a Dillon new or used. I just went thru a warranty issue this last week. See my other post. No questions asked, no problem just sent me the replacement parts free of charge. I was not the original owner. I would buy another Dillon for a progressive press.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1204130

[halon101]

I had to call dillon the other day with a technical question. I was on hold a wopping 10 seconds before someone was on the line.
The guy answered my question and had part numbers available for what i was trying to do without hesitation.

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[tonyjr]

I have a Lee . Why - all that was in stock . My complaint with is the priming - depin station . I depin , then tumble and then reprime , then go to press ,
They sell / make dies for 50A E but no way other than hand feeding to reload .
station # 1 = sizing
station # 2 powder
station # 3 seating bullet
station # 4 OAL
station # 5 crimping
Who ever you buy - get at least a 5 station press .
A lot of people get by with only a 3 die setup - they don't clean their brass , primer pockets or flash hole . Then others buy a 4 die set [ 4th die is carbide ]
Before deciding on press , check out what dies that company sells . Next is how much to change set up from like a 9 mm to a 45 ?
How much for an extra turret ? Are you only reloading one caliber ? [ I have 6 turrets - 5 for pistols and one for rifle calibers ]
What size bullets / cases can be auto feed ? No body make a feeder for 50 caliber [ DE50 AE / 50 S&W ] Right now I am looking at a 7 station , but hand to find the turrets - not even mentioning the price .

[baih777]

Don't forget the RCBS pro chucker 5.
All the reloading companies have excellent warranties.

[Eljay]

Lee and Dillon definitely are good with the warranties. I haven't had experience with the others.

Dillon is the kind of company where you call and you tell the guy you broke some plastic part when your wrench slipped tightening something and hit an unrelated part and he not only sends you two more for free, but a couple more springs that attach to it in case those get buggered, and tells you some tricks to get the spring on because it's a little tricky, and he has a way he prefers to do it that might be helpful. PLUS says he's also going to throw in some alignment tools because to replace the part in question you have to tear down the press enough that might be an issue if the platform doesn't end up in exactly the same place and he doesn't want to leave you with a press that doesn't run as smoothly as possible.

Well alrighty then.

[evergladesbear]

Great response on my concerns. It is nice to know that even though RCBS has a written policy that causes me to hesitate, that they have treated their customers well. I used to do a lot of reloading but stopped 15 years ago. Used a Lyman All American. Slow but was happy. Now doing a lot of practicing with 9mm and .45acp. I hope to do some competition shooting and want to keep the cost down. Progressive press should pay for itself fairly quickly. Someone mentioned that the RCBS Pro 2000 was an older model. I thought is was one of their newer presses. I know Dillion has a sterling reputation, but the cost is a bit high. I seem to be gravitating to the Hornady LNL. Features are nice and the powder dispenser seems to be at the top of most folks list. It appears, based on the response so far, that the Hornady LNL and the Dillion should be at the top of my list. Thanks again for all of your help.

[jericho89]

Let me tell you about Dillon. I kept an eye out and was able to pick up a 650 press with case feeder here in the market place for under $300. Yes it was a steal, but you can find good deals on used equipment and still have the full Dillon warranty.