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  • #16
    Unretarded
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 466

    Originally posted by JohnCCW
    Much better powders for .223 than 4064. Even in 308 size cases, 4064 is nostalgic, not optimum.
    Yeah...seems that way, it was the first 8 pound jug that looked like it "could" load .233/.308/.270 all in the same powder.

    I will load some various test rounds in each caliber and see what happens.......more than likely will be ordering a 8 pounder in tac and cfe 223, maybe others depending on how it goes.


    Varget was my plan to start with, but it looks non existant now.

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    • #17
      highpower790
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 3481

      Originally posted by Unretarded
      Yeah...seems that way, it was the first 8 pound jug that looked like it "could" load .233/.308/.270 all in the same powder.

      I will load some various test rounds in each caliber and see what happens.......more than likely will be ordering a 8 pounder in tac and cfe 223, maybe others depending on how it goes.


      Varget was my plan to start with, but it looks non existant now.
      to bad your not closer .I have Varget!
      Keep it simple!

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      • #18
        OpenSightsOnly
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 1557

        Originally posted by JohnCCW
        Much better powders for .223 than 4064. Even in 308 size cases, 4064 is nostalgic, not optimum.
        Mk 316 Mod 0 ammo uses IMR 4064 with a powder charge that is between 41.5 to 42 grains with 175 SMK. IMR 4064 is a lot less temp sensitive compared to the RL 15 powder of M118LR ammo. Wouldn't call that nostalgic

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        • #19
          OpenSightsOnly
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1557

          Originally posted by Unretarded
          Yeah...seems that way, it was the first 8 pound jug that looked like it "could" load .233/.308/.270 all in the same powder.

          I will load some various test rounds in each caliber and see what happens.......more than likely will be ordering a 8 pounder in tac and cfe 223, maybe others depending on how it goes.


          Varget was my plan to start with, but it looks non existant now.

          For 223 Im a big fan of 8208XBR, similar to H4895. Comparing the two powders, my short line and 600 yard load are just a few grains off.

          If you can't get Varget, go for H4895 since that is pretty much a go-to powder for 223 and 308 be it gas gun or bolt.

          IMR 4064 with 223 (77s or 80s), 24 or 24.5 has done me pretty good just a pain to charge a case even with a Chargemaster.

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          • #20
            milotrain
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2011
            • 4301

            OP, you'll find that everyone recommends Varget for a reason. However H4859 is used by a lot of people and is nearly as ubiquitous a rifle powder as Varget.

            OpenSightsOnly above does a good deal of load dev, if he got 4064 to work I'd consider it a reasonable powder regardless of claims otherwise. There is at least one powder I use that no one should use and there isn't 223 data for but it works very well if treated right. It's terrible if treated wrong.
            Last edited by milotrain; 05-14-2016, 11:44 AM.
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            • #21
              Unretarded
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2016
              • 466

              Originally posted by OpenSightsOnly
              Mk 316 Mod 0 ammo uses IMR 4064 with a powder charge that is between 41.5 to 42 grains with 175 SMK. IMR 4064 is a lot less temp sensitive compared to the RL 15 powder of M118LR ammo. Wouldn't call that nostalgic
              Thanks !

              That was one reason for the imr 4064 is the 175 tmk`s for my .308.

              Thanks.

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              • #22
                Unretarded
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2016
                • 466

                Originally posted by OpenSightsOnly
                For 223 Im a big fan of 8208XBR, similar to H4895. Comparing the two powders, my short line and 600 yard load are just a few grains off.

                If you can't get Varget, go for H4895 since that is pretty much a go-to powder for 223 and 308 be it gas gun or bolt.

                IMR 4064 with 223 (77s or 80s), 24 or 24.5 has done me pretty good just a pain to charge a case even with a Chargemaster.
                I appreciate the info !


                I have some 75 grain hornady loaded up to mag length....we will see what happens.

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                • #23
                  Unretarded
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2016
                  • 466

                  Originally posted by highpower790
                  to bad your not closer .I have Varget!

                  Always too far or too late....arrrggh.

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