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  • Carcassonne
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 4897

    Will bi-metal or gilded bullets damage a stainless barrel?

    Will bi-metal or gilded bullets damage a stainless barrel?

    I bought some low priced (Federal and MagTech) 7.62x51 NATO ammunition, and I noticed the bullets are magnetic. Different descriptions around the web say they are either gilded or bi-metal. I am guessing they both mean copper plated metal.

    Are these the same as Wolf and Tula bullets, or are they safer for a stainless barrel?

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    M1NM
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2011
    • 7966

    I'll assume they are steel with a light plating of copper for corrosion protection. The military doesn't care if it wears out barrels but I wouldn't shoot them in my gun. Only lead & copper in mine.

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      Divernhunter
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 8753

      You will be fine unless you plan to shoot 30,000 rounds or more the you may loose some accuracy.

      Take a file to one. If it is steel under the copper alloy then "I personally" would not shoot many thru a rifle that I liked and used a lot.
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      • #4
        Carcassonne
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2012
        • 4897

        Originally posted by M1NM
        I'll assume they are steel with a light plating of copper for corrosion protection. The military doesn't care if it wears out barrels but I wouldn't shoot them in my gun. Only lead & copper in mine.
        I got 200 of them.

        Maybe I can dip the tips in MoS2 powder.


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        • #5
          sofbak
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2010
          • 2628

          Originally posted by Divernhunter
          You will be fine unless you plan to shoot 30,000 rounds or more the you may loose some accuracy.

          Take a file to one. If it is steel under the copper alloy then "I personally" would not shoot many thru a rifle that I liked and used a lot.
          All depends on the thickness of the copper. If it is truly a bi-metal projectile
          the copper will be plenty thick enough to prevent "steel to steel" scrubbing in your barrel..... Take a file to one of the bullets to determine.

          All bi-metal projectiles have a healthy copper jacket on the exterior. It is copper jacket over steel jacket over lead core. A good example is greek HXP .30-06 garand ammo.

          Take a round and put a file to it to see. If the copper outer jacket is .020" or thicker... SHOOT IT and stop worrying about barrel/chamber wear. Ain't happenin......

          OTOH, if the copper top layer is thin-like platiing or "wash"........ Think about barrel wear.
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          • #6
            robert101
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 1997

            Yea, on a some what similar note. I shoot a lot of plated bullets. I never see lead in the barrel. Same principle - the thin copper coating protects the lead underneath.

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            • #7
              Carcassonne
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 4897

              Originally posted by sofbak
              All depends on the thickness of the copper. If it is truly a bi-metal projectile
              the copper will be plenty thick enough to prevent "steel to steel" scrubbing in your barrel..... Take a file to one of the bullets to determine.

              All bi-metal projectiles have a healthy copper jacket on the exterior. It is copper jacket over steel jacket over lead core. A good example is greek HXP .30-06 garand ammo.

              Take a round and put a file to it to see. If the copper outer jacket is .020" or thicker... SHOOT IT and stop worrying about barrel/chamber wear. Ain't happenin......

              OTOH, if the copper top layer is thin-like platiing or "wash"........ Think about barrel wear.

              It is Federal XM80CL and Magtech 762A



              Be sure to ask your doctor if depression, rectal bleeding, and suicide are right for you.

              In the United States a person's expertise on a subject is inversely proportional to their knowledge of the subject: The less they know about something, the more they become an expert on it.

              I am being held hostage in a giant insane asylum called Earth.

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              • #8
                smoothy8500
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3838

                The copper "plating" on those ball rounds is thick enough to prevent steel from contacting the rifling.

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                • #9
                  hermosabeach
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 19103

                  If it is a tack driver- cut one projectile in 1/2 to examine the jacket....

                  There is a lot of 308 projectile manufacturers out there and I have no idea what federal has loaded in that ammo....
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                  • #10
                    fguffey
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1408

                    Cupro Nickel Bullets?

                    Cupro nickel bullets can be picked up by a magnet. The last cupro nickel cases I purchased were Turk 8mm57 loaded +/- a few years to either side of 1940.

                    Except for being cheap at the time ($4.70 for 70 rounds) there was nothing good about the ammo. It had corrosive primers, some of the bullets would leave the barrel at 2,900 fps and the cases were subject to splitting. And then there were the cupro nickel bullets.

                    F. Guffey

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                    • #11
                      Hinnerk
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2015
                      • 779

                      Originally posted by fguffey
                      Cupro Nickel Bullets?

                      Cupro nickel bullets can be picked up by a magnet. The last cupro nickel cases I purchased were Turk 8mm57 loaded +/- a few years to either side of 1940.

                      Except for being cheap at the time ($4.70 for 70 rounds) there was nothing good about the ammo. It had corrosive primers, some of the bullets would leave the barrel at 2,900 fps and the cases were subject to splitting. And then there were the cupro nickel bullets.

                      F. Guffey
                      Norma also used magnetic cupro nickel jacketed bullets circa 1970s in some ammo. I have some in 8x57.

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