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  • MA5177
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 1487

    .223 on Dillon 550

    I have a Dillon 550 and need some advice on procedures for loading .223

    A lot of my brass is crimped and it's a much bigger pain I found out to load .223 than my standard handgun calipers. I'm thinking of buying a separate tool head to just run a sizing/ escaping die in. First I would tumble then lube then run through sizing decal die. After that I would swage then trim to length if necessary. After that load as normal without sizing stage

    Is there an easier way of doing it?
  • #2
    boomer135
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2012
    • 580

    I set up 2 tool heads for my 650. One for sizing. Prep brass as necessary. The second tool head I put a universal decapping die in station #1 to remove any media I may have missed stuck in the primer pocket.

    Tool head 1- .223 sizing die
    Tool head 2- decapping die, powder drop, seating die, crimp die.
    Last edited by boomer135; 03-25-2016, 12:42 PM.

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    • #3
      tmorse
      Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 166

      That is pretty much how I do it for necked rifle brass.

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      • #4
        jimmykan
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 3092

        Get a Dillon 1050 press or Super Swage tool.

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        • #5
          AandO
          Member
          • Nov 2014
          • 449

          1050 aside.

          The only benefit of having to mess with a crimp is the knowledge that you are truly dealing with OFB.

          And yes, that knowledge is priceless...............

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          • #6
            bender152
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 4237

            Originally posted by MA5177
            First I would tumble then lube then run through sizing decal die. After that I would swage then trim to length if necessary. After that load as normal without sizing stage
            That's pretty much how I do it.

            My .223/5.56 brass is resized and decapped on a single stage press. Stage 1 on the Dillon is used strictly for priming. I don't even have a resizing die in it.

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            • #7
              milotrain
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 4301

              I run two tool heads. If it's range brass or once fired I use two sizing dies so that I'm not working too hard on the first and making sure I hit my oversized run on the second.

              I prime by hand, I don't even prime on the dillon, but that's just because I can fill a lee priming tool faster than a dillon priming tube.

              Loading is done with a powder charge station (st2), and a bullet seater (st3) and that's all.
              weg: That device is obsolete now. They replaced it with wizards.
              frank: Wait a minute. There are more than one wizard? Is [are?] the wizard calibrated?

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              • #8
                MA5177
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1487

                Thanks guys, now how about trimming? What's the easiest and cheapest way? What about those type that fit on a drill ?

                I don't have a swager but I use a pocket reamer in a cordless drill. Works pretty good

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                • #9
                  sghart
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 1224

                  Originally posted by MA5177
                  Thanks guys, now how about trimming? What's the easiest and cheapest way? What about those type that fit on a drill ?

                  I don't have a swager but I use a pocket reamer in a cordless drill. Works pretty good

                  I would think that depends on how many pieces at a time that you want to process and how much you want to spend.

                  I size and deprime my brass on a single stage. I then trim the cases that need it on a Lee Deluxe Quick Trim.

                  I then use a Hornady small primer pocket reamer to remove the crimp. This is a nice little tool that has a threaded shank on it for use in brass prep stations. What I did was buy a 8/32 coupling nut to screw onto the Hornady tool to protect the threads. I then chuck it into a drill motor and process my cases.

                  I typically do 100 cases at a time and it goes pretty quick.

                  I then hand prime with a Lee Ergo prime and finally I load them on a Dillon 450 or a Lee Pro 1000.

                  If I did 1000 or 2000 cases at a time like some of the ironmen on this forum then I would definitely look for a better way. Those guys have my respect. For the volume that I load and shoot my system works for me.
                  Last edited by sghart; 03-25-2016, 8:10 PM.

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                  • #10
                    dragon7
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 576

                    Easiest way to trim is with a Giraud trimmer. Pricey up front but the time and consistent trim is worth it if you're prepping cases in bulk. Tried bench mounted and drill mounted trimmers and they just take so much time and effort. The Giraud works like a giant pencil sharpener. Very fast. I've trimmed 400 .223 cases in an hour.

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                    • #11
                      MA5177
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 1487

                      Moral of the story..... May be cheaper to buy AR .223

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                      • #12
                        boomer135
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 580

                        giraud also make a Tri-Way trimmer. They are $100 I use them to trim, chamfer, and deburr in one step.

                        Originally posted by dragon7
                        Easiest way to trim is with a Giraud trimmer. Pricey up front but the time and consistent trim is worth it if you're prepping cases in bulk. Tried bench mounted and drill mounted trimmers and they just take so much time and effort. The Giraud works like a giant pencil sharpener. Very fast. I've trimmed 400 .223 cases in an hour.

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                        • #13
                          boomer135
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 580

                          once you're set up you have all the gear. It's cheaper to reload. Especially if you shoot a lot.

                          Originally posted by MA5177
                          Moral of the story..... May be cheaper to buy AR .223

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                          • #14
                            gbarbo001
                            Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 235

                            Originally posted by dragon7
                            Easiest way to trim is with a Giraud trimmer. Pricey up front but the time and consistent trim is worth it if you're prepping cases in bulk. Tried bench mounted and drill mounted trimmers and they just take so much time and effort. The Giraud works like a giant pencil sharpener. Very fast. I've trimmed 400 .223 cases in an hour.
                            Roger that. To defray the cost, I went in halves with a gun buddy and we share our Giraud.

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                            • #15
                              tmorse
                              Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 166

                              Just received a WFT trimmer from Little Crow Gunworks. it is far nicer than the Possum Hollow trimmer I was using. the WFT is pretty good depending on the volume you are doing.

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