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  • thenotoriousmo
    Member
    • May 2010
    • 229

    magnetospeed v3 vs labradar

    i haven't found a direct comparison between the two with actual data. luckily this past weekend i had the opportunity to test (very unscientifically i may add) the two of them

    this was a 5 shot string with a 338 norma shooting a 300 grain berger otm

    shot.....magneto.....labradar.....delta
    1..........2772............2785..........13
    2..........2763............2783..........20
    3..........2758............2782..........24
    4..........2768............2785..........17
    5..........2761............2784..........23

    avg......2764............2784..........19
    SD.......5.6................1.3
    ES.......14.................3.................11

    as much as i want to believe in the labradar to make myself feel awesome, im fairly confident that my reloading practices are not at the level that would produce a 3 fps extreme spread over 5 shots. so even though i have no scientific justification, i feel that the magneto speed had the correct velocities. too bad there wasn't an oehler out there too to compare all 3 at once.

    now this was an very impromptu test, so and the sample size is extremely small. so take it for what its worth. im not trying to bash on the labradar as i think it is an amazing piece of equipment that can do much more than get muzzle velocity. but i figured someone would actually want to see a shot by shot comparison.
    Last edited by thenotoriousmo; 03-01-2016, 7:59 PM. Reason: fixed chart
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    Fjold
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2005
    • 23000

    You have to put a string of periods ....... between entries to get them to align, it doesn't accept spaces.

    Have you tried the labradar on 22 caliber bullets? I haven't seen anyone have any luck reading small bullets with the labradar.
    Frank

    One rifle, one planet, Holland's 375




    Life Member NRA, CRPA and SAF

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    • #3
      thenotoriousmo
      Member
      • May 2010
      • 229

      it wasn't mine, but when i saw it out there i couldn't pass up the opportunity to do a side by side. and i think the smallest caliber out there was mine with the norma. so i can't answer the question about the 22 cals

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      • #4
        ruggyh
        Member
        • Mar 2012
        • 203

        I compared my Labradar with my Kurzzeit BMC-19 and found the data to reasonably correct, no reason to doubt it in my book.

        15 fps is less than .5% error not enough to worry about.

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        • #5
          noylj
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2010
          • 713

          Only complaints I heard about .22 bullets was that they weren't getting consistent readings out past 50 or 100 yards. Seemed like a non-issue to me, as no other chronograph I have seen can even begin to give you velocity vs. distance readings.
          Note: neither chronograph has been calibrated, so they will read slightly different. We all are sure that the clock is perfect with all chronographs, but are they?

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          • #6
            thenotoriousmo
            Member
            • May 2010
            • 229

            i completely agree that 20 is a drop in the bucket percentage error wise at 2700+. the only things I've ever read is that they are "reasonably correct" and other vague terms. nothing saying it average xx difference between blah blah. I'm sure the data is out there, but i just haven't asked the right person. besides, as a numbers nerd, i much rather see quantitative data than qualitative.


            as a mostly long-ish range shooter these days, the ES number is what i want to keep tight. one result says keep on doing what you are doing. the other is telling me that maybe i should spend more time at the reloading bench.
            Last edited by thenotoriousmo; 03-02-2016, 6:56 AM.

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            • #7
              ruggyh
              Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 203

              If you want precision then get a Kurzzeit BMC-19

              Until you use some calibration standard then its all relative.

              Each technology has some limitations and influences.


              At the end of the day it only mater how the bullet prints

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              • #8
                cgornet
                Member
                • Nov 2015
                • 151

                I have both and plan on doing a side by side comparison in the next week or so.

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                • #9
                  JMP
                  Internet Warrior
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 17056

                  I would expect both the LabRadar and the Magneto to have significant margins of error as there are limitations on both. Doppler radar is an extremely good way to measure velocity, but clearly, you would not be able to get an excellent unit for only $700. It is my understanding that both systems have provided results reasonably close to an Oehler. It isn't as important to get the exact velocity as it is to know your relative spread. Exact velocities usually don't provide much value over a "close" velocity since the associated BCs for the projectiles are generally even much more flawed than the velocity measurement with these newer chronographs.

                  I just got my LabRadar in the mail, and I haven't used it yet. For me, the decision to get a LabRadar was an easy one since I will use it primarily to test high volume projectiles. Because many of the large cartridges come at a very high price to shoot, having a chronograph that can measure your velocity while you shoot is a huge advantage as you do not need to waste expensive ammo and expensive barrels by shooting them through a chronograph. If I was only shooting high velocity 6mm projectiles, I probably would not have gotten the LabRadar since I fear the measurement will degrade with small, fast projectiles.

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                  • #10
                    Hk996
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 659

                    I've had the Labradar for a few weeks now. Here is my take... I do not have to wait for a line break to set up a triangle unit that I've accidentally shot a couple times.... I'm pretty sure I would manage to shoot the bayonet thing off a magnitospeed and I didn't like having something on the barrel. Oh, and I can chrono all handguns! Win right there! So, ease of use is great.... battery life seems not so good, but you can use a USB phone battery, so thats not really an issue.

                    Also, I can use this in a indoor range. Mind you, I'm still tinkering with the trigger sensitivity and stuff when on a public range or indoor range. Now the smallest I shoot is the 6.5 now (haven't shot the 223 in a while, but playing with it in the yard, I was able to chrono my airsoft witch was cool...


                    kevin.

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                    • #11
                      jconfus
                      Member
                      • May 2016
                      • 382

                      Anymore experience? Any one? Trying to decide between mag speed v3 and labradar.

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                      • #12
                        kcheung2
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 4387

                        I don't have one, but at the range I saw a guy with one and I asked him how he knew he was aiming it properly and not at the next lane. He taped up a little metal tube into the aiming notch so it was like an aperture sight.
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                        "There is no "best." If there was, everyone here would own that one, and no other." - DSB

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                        • #13
                          Buffman
                          Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 247

                          Originally posted by jconfus
                          Anymore experience? Any one? Trying to decide between mag speed v3 and labradar.

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                          I tested one. Read 5.56 and 5.7 fine along with 9mm. However I wanted to use it down at the pistol range, where targets are 20-30 feet from my working area. It didn't like that. Once I brought it up to the rifle range and had considerable distance between where I was shooting, it was happy. The manual I had with the unit didn't make mention of this, but I see it's on the FAQ now.

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                          • #14
                            waveslayer
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 1728

                            Originally posted by jconfus
                            Anymore experience? Any one? Trying to decide between mag speed v3 and labradar.

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                            I have both. Go Labradar no POI shifts using it. Just take a battery pack to power it,. It eats them quick .

                            The Margin of error is good on the Labradar. Time to set up is much faster over the Magnetospeed

                            My wife thinks I only have 3 guns

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                            • #15
                              tanks
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 4038

                              I have Labradar, use it for handguns though. I like the fact it is very easy to setup, and I can use an external battery pack.
                              "... when a man has shot an elephant his life is full"- John Alfred Jordan
                              "A set of ivory tusks speaks of a life well lived." - Unknown

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