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  • #16
    tanks
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 4038

    Originally posted by Germ1
    He has a simple set up. He was telling me he wished he had a Dillon or whatever because he has to do each step himself. With one of those other ones I guess you just put the primers, cases, and bullets in then pull the lever and a bullet comes out?
    Not quite, but close. Here is a basics video.


    Now, reloading is not for everyone. You have to be a bit OCD to reload in that one has to pay attention and be careful. No tv, drinking, distractions etc. while reloading or KABOOM at the range.
    Last edited by tanks; 02-24-2016, 11:37 PM.
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    • #17
      Germ1
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2014
      • 1165

      Originally posted by tanks
      Not quite, but close. Here is a basics video.


      Now, reloading is not for everyone. You have to be a bit OCD to reload in that one has to pay attention and be careful. No tv, drinking, distractions etc. while reloading or KABOOM at the range.
      One of the things that's on my mind already, lol. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs, so I guess that's one less thing to worry about.

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      • #18
        elmontemike
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 899

        Originally posted by tanks
        You'd be saving about $25 per 500. In a year that is $1,300. Whether that savings is worth to you or not is your decision. In reality people do not save any money, they just shoot more .
        This is true. You think you're saving money but you end up shooting more so you're spending more. I like having this problem though.
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        • #19
          rsrocket1
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 2768

          I'm shooting 9mm at 6 cents a shot but I cast and I don't get lead free, I'm pretty much paying open market cost of just under $1/#. If I can score some for real cheap or free like folks used to do, it would be 4 cents a shot. The interesting thing about casting and reloading is that regardless of caliber it's all about the same cost of 6-8 cents per shot depending on your cost of lead.

          Primers are 2.5-3 cents, powder is about a penny, brass is free, lead can vary between 1.5 cents for a 120g 9mm bullet to 3 cents for a 230g 45ACP bullet.

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          • #20
            scotchblade
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 795

            Originally posted by Germ1
            One of the things that's on my mind already, lol. I don't drink, smoke or do drugs, so I guess that's one less thing to worry about.
            Are you the detail oriented, organized type? Able to remain focused on the task at hand? Reloading isn't for everyone.

            My big savings comes with .44 Special and Magnum, not to mention the ability to really vary the load. I load 9mm as well.

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            • #21
              stranded1980
              Member
              • May 2013
              • 191

              Originally posted by Germ1
              Yeah, he's already trying to teach me since I mentioned it earlier today. He's shoving books into my hands and telling me I can use his press & tumbler.
              Then your decision should be a no-brainer: Go learn from him! It's only going to cost you components, but the really valuable thing is time with your grandfather.

              A large part of who we are, and why we act the way we do is genetic. Yea, some of it is learned behavior, but we also inherit characteristics that make us react the way we do. Spending time with our ancestors helps us to understand ourselves. Their stories help us as we forge our own.

              Furthermore, I'm guessing you're under 35 if your grandfather is alive. You may only shoot 9mm now, but there is a good chance that'll change as you get older. If you already know how to reload, it'll be a valuable skill in case you ever move to rifle or more expensive pistol cartridges.

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              • #22
                Eljay
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4985

                Originally posted by Germ1
                He has a simple set up. He was telling me he wished he had a Dillon or whatever because he has to do each step himself. With one of those other ones I guess you just put the primers, cases, and bullets in then pull the lever and a bullet comes out?
                Yeah, pretty much if you're living on the higher end. Here's a video of a 650 with a bulletfeeder.



                Every 100 cases it runs out of primers so you dump in a primer tube and I take that time to throw a couple of handfulls of bullets into that hopper, and to do whatever level of brass inspection I'm doing (more for match rounds, less for practice) and throw those into THAT hopper.

                I'd totally learn from your grandpa in either case even if you decide not to do anything about it until later in life.

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                • #23
                  Paseclipse
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1246

                  Originally posted by Germ1
                  Hello people, I'm considering reloading. I already have reloading equipment available to me, all I would need is a 9mm die. I shoot 500 rounds of 9mm every weekend, and at the end of the day I pick everything up. Usually the brass just sits around waiting to be thrown away(cringe if you must). Every time I pick it up I think to myself, I could be doing something with all of this.

                  So here's my question, is it worth it? So far from what I've found it's 67 dollars for 500 115gr fmj bullets. Plus whatever the primers and the powder cost. So at the end of the day I will be lucky if I'm saving what, ten or twenty bucks? Which comes at the cost of my time. I know nothing about reloading, I'm not the reloader in the family my grandfather is.

                  Is 9mm worth reloading if you shoot high volumes of it like I do?
                  Go learn how to reload from your grandfather and spend time with him while he's still here. The money saved reloading 9mm will be minimal but the memories you'll have with him will be priceless.

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                  • #24
                    MrElectric03
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 1590

                    When I started reloading I went big and bought a Dillon 650. Not because I shoot a lot but because I value my time. I don't shoot near as much as you OP, but I can load 500 rounds in 45 minutes pretty easily. I spend about one day a month reloading. I enjoy it a lot and wish I could spend more but I work a lot and spending family time comes first. In one day I'll load whatever caliber I'm getting low on (I reload 9 calibers on my 650 and 5 calibers on my rockchucker but prep all brass on the 650) and I'll prep brass and tumble to I have brass ready to load when needed.

                    My 9mm 115 gr cost is just over $0.10 per round not counting brass. I bought about 3k 9mm cases at under $0.03 per case and haven't needed to replenish yet.

                    You may not save a ton shooting 9mm but you are saving. Later if you want a buy a 10mm, .44 mag, or start shooting rifle matches your investment will pay off much quicker.
                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    So you are throwing out 95% of reality to select the 5% of reality where you are actually right?
                    We must be on calguns...

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                    • #25
                      MrElectric03
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2010
                      • 1590

                      Originally posted by Paseclipse
                      Go learn how to reload from your grandfather and spend time with him while he's still here. The money saved reloading 9mm will be minimal but the memories you'll have with him will be priceless.
                      As I have a grandfather with Alzheimer's who taught me to weld, fabricate, and work on cars I very much agree with this^^^
                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      So you are throwing out 95% of reality to select the 5% of reality where you are actually right?
                      We must be on calguns...

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                      • #26
                        Jjwisled
                        Member
                        • Jun 2015
                        • 243

                        Jump on this opportunity i missed the chance to learn from mine, he passed many years ago and I only recently started reloading. What I wouldn't give to spend a little time with him at his bench now.

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                        • #27
                          Germ1
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1165

                          Originally posted by stranded1980
                          Then your decision should be a no-brainer: Go learn from him! It's only going to cost you components, but the really valuable thing is time with your grandfather.

                          A large part of who we are, and why we act the way we do is genetic. Yea, some of it is learned behavior, but we also inherit characteristics that make us react the way we do. Spending time with our ancestors helps us to understand ourselves. Their stories help us as we forge our own.

                          Furthermore, I'm guessing you're under 35 if your grandfather is alive. You may only shoot 9mm now, but there is a good chance that'll change as you get older. If you already know how to reload, it'll be a valuable skill in case you ever move to rifle or more expensive pistol cartridges.
                          I am under 35, I'm 27. My grandfather has already had two strokes which resulted in permanent brain damage. He had to relearn how to walk. The crazy part about it was that he just slept through both of them, he thought he was sick and just spent two days laying in his recliner. He ended up driving himself to the hospital.
                          He's not a pleasant man in general so everyone just left him alone thinking he had the flu or something. Tuff guy, I don't feel so good I better go lay down. Turns out it was a couple of strokes, lol. He's a retired iron worker. Any way I probably will learn how to reload.

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                          • #28
                            stranded1980
                            Member
                            • May 2013
                            • 191

                            Good decision! Here's some great topics to discuss while you're learning to reload from him:

                            1. How did you meet grandma?
                            2. What was your mom or dad like as a kid?
                            3. Did you serve in the military? Any combat stories?
                            4. How did you choose your career?
                            5. What was it like when you grew up?
                            6. What were your great-grandparents like?
                            7. Did he get along with his dad?
                            8. What were his siblings like?

                            In short, learning to reload is a perk to just spending time with your grandpa. Guys on this board can argue all day about the value of loading 9mm, single stage vs progressive, the mentality to reload,etc. But I doubt any of us would disagree on the importance of spending time with a grandparent. Learn everything about their life you can. Enjoy them while they are still alive.

                            Best of luck to you!

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                            • #29
                              Germ1
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 1165

                              He has a Lyman turret press. A Lyman expert I think.

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                              • #30
                                Jjwisled
                                Member
                                • Jun 2015
                                • 243

                                Ha-ha sounds like my dad , he was on his third stroke and hallucinations before he realized something was seriously wrong.

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