I think the dillon powder bells are not carbide even if you get carbide dies.
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Lubing Pistol Brass
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The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)Comment
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Dillon's view is that wet tumbled brass gets cleaned so much that it causes the brass to hang up due to lack of lubrication.
Web search basically said the same thing and a lot of people had the same issue. Suggestions were from polishing the expander die to lubing the cases.
First I tried to polish the expander die. Worked for about 20 rounds or so, then I had to repeat. A bit tedious.
This is avoided with dry tumbling only, as the old residue of powders inside the case act as a lubricant.
For a happy medium, I personally wet tumble, allow to dry overnight, and then dry tumble in corn cob and Nufinish. This adds a protective polish to the brass, and some of the dust acts a lubricate on the inside of the case, however, not as good if I had dry tumbled only.
Furthermore, on my Dillon pistol expanders, I sand them with 600 grit, then 800 grit sandpaper. Then two coats of Flitz metal polish. After that, I use McLube SailKote on the expander, usually 4 coats (it dries in seconds). It sounds like it takes a long time to polish, but that whole process really only takes me 6 or 7 minutes going slow. I typically make it around 800 rounds before I get vertical brass lines on the Dillon Expander from the galling.
Wet tumbling is definitely more trouble than just dry tumbling, and there is no effect on your shooting, since they feed the same either way. However, I love the way wet tumbled brass looks, and with a little ones crawling around, anything I can do to minimize lead dust exposure (even though its out in the garage) is worth it to me.Comment
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I find lubing makes a noticeable difference to the effort required.
I put cases in a big heavy bag (that used to have bullets in it), one spray (dillon ) shake like heck and dump into the brass binComment
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I did a poll a couple years ago about who lubess pistol brass. I got all kinds of people saying that if you have carbides you don't need to lube the brass and then a whole bunch of other people too thought the same as me, which was why wouldn't you lube the pistol brass if it makes it easier to load. So I realize that you don't have to lube pistol brass, but it sure does make it run like butter. I keep a block of canning wax and every 4th or 5th case i run my fingers over the block of canning wax and swipe my fingers over the case and it makes it nice and easy to size the brass.CALGUNS DICTIONARY "FLIER": when a shooter wants to turn a 1 inch group to a half inch group because he flinched.Comment
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The manuals seem to all tell you to remove it due to it interfering with the case adhering to the chamber during firing. I am probably the least qualified to hold an opinion on that, but it always seemed to me that given the pressures involved, that's a bit hard to swallow. However, lube does for certain attract crud, and crud I definitely don't want in the chamber, so I've always cleaned it off.Comment
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When the expander seems sticky, I take a little lube on my finger and just touch the case mouth every few cases and it makes the operation a lot smoother.Originally posted by NOMADCHRISyour asking a question about asking a question ??? just ask the damn question!!!Comment
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The manuals seem to all tell you to remove it due to it interfering with the case adhering to the chamber during firing. I am probably the least qualified to hold an opinion on that, but it always seemed to me that given the pressures involved, that's a bit hard to swallow. However, lube does for certain attract crud, and crud I definitely don't want in the chamber, so I've always cleaned it off.Comment
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I re-size and de-prime first then a 3 hour wet tumble with SS pins, 30 minutes in the dehydrator then dry tumble the HOT brass in corn cob and NuFInish for 2 hours. Like new brass with spotless primer pockets and enough wax and corn cob dust that they don't stick in my carbide dies. Works for me.Comment
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Lubing Pistol Brass
I started making my own case lube. I went on Amazon and purchased 99% rubbing alcohol and liquid lanolin (looks like honey). I mixed it in a spray bottle. 10% lanolin, and 90% alcohol by volume. I spray down 1000 9mm cases and they dry in about a minute and are ready for resizing. No more strong arming your press. I will post some pics later. You barely use any of the spray to lube cases. User Bkoyle has tried it and likes it. He can attest to its usefulness.Last edited by McGuiver; 04-19-2016, 11:39 PM.Comment
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I started making my own case lube. I went on Amazon and purchased 99% rubbing alcohol and liquid lanolin (looks like honey). I mixed it in a spray bottle. 10% lanolin, and 90% alcohol by volume. I spray down 1000 9mm cases and they drive in about a minute and are ready for resizing. No more strong arming your press. I will post some pics later. You barely use any of the spray to lube cases. User Bkoyle has tried it and likes it. He can attest to its usefulness.
I use a simple 12:1 ratio - 12oz HEET (red bottle only!), to one oz Liquid Lanolin from Amazon like McGuiver. I add a couple .380 cases into the spray bottle to help swirl/mix before spraying.
Do i need lube for handgun brass - no. Does it help reduce effort and more importantly smooth press motion - Definitely! Easier and more consistent powder drops w/ less "jerk" on my progressive.Comment
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Here is what I purchased thru Amazon. Works very well. I think it is just like the "Dillon spray lube" but cheaper.
I have lubed almost 4k rounds of 9mm and only used about 1/2 inch of the mixed bottle. With the 99% rubbing alcohol it stays mixed pretty well. I always shake it once or twice before spraying just for good measure.
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