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  • #16
    Frozenguy
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2008
    • 6303

    I think the dillon powder bells are not carbide even if you get carbide dies.

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    • #17
      JDay
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2008
      • 19393

      Originally posted by Frozenguy
      I think the dillon powder bells are not carbide even if you get carbide dies.
      I coat mine in graphite. Works great.
      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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      • #18
        stranded1980
        Member
        • May 2013
        • 191

        Originally posted by tanks
        Dillon's view is that wet tumbled brass gets cleaned so much that it causes the brass to hang up due to lack of lubrication.

        Web search basically said the same thing and a lot of people had the same issue. Suggestions were from polishing the expander die to lubing the cases.

        First I tried to polish the expander die. Worked for about 20 rounds or so, then I had to repeat. A bit tedious.
        If you only wet tumble the brass, then with the Dillon Pistol Expander, it will start galling. As a result, the effort to release the brass from the expander becomes greater.

        This is avoided with dry tumbling only, as the old residue of powders inside the case act as a lubricant.

        For a happy medium, I personally wet tumble, allow to dry overnight, and then dry tumble in corn cob and Nufinish. This adds a protective polish to the brass, and some of the dust acts a lubricate on the inside of the case, however, not as good if I had dry tumbled only.

        Furthermore, on my Dillon pistol expanders, I sand them with 600 grit, then 800 grit sandpaper. Then two coats of Flitz metal polish. After that, I use McLube SailKote on the expander, usually 4 coats (it dries in seconds). It sounds like it takes a long time to polish, but that whole process really only takes me 6 or 7 minutes going slow. I typically make it around 800 rounds before I get vertical brass lines on the Dillon Expander from the galling.

        Wet tumbling is definitely more trouble than just dry tumbling, and there is no effect on your shooting, since they feed the same either way. However, I love the way wet tumbled brass looks, and with a little ones crawling around, anything I can do to minimize lead dust exposure (even though its out in the garage) is worth it to me.

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        • #19
          randomBytes
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 1607

          I find lubing makes a noticeable difference to the effort required.
          I put cases in a big heavy bag (that used to have bullets in it), one spray (dillon ) shake like heck and dump into the brass bin

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          • #20
            stand125
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2010
            • 1451

            I did a poll a couple years ago about who lubess pistol brass. I got all kinds of people saying that if you have carbides you don't need to lube the brass and then a whole bunch of other people too thought the same as me, which was why wouldn't you lube the pistol brass if it makes it easier to load. So I realize that you don't have to lube pistol brass, but it sure does make it run like butter. I keep a block of canning wax and every 4th or 5th case i run my fingers over the block of canning wax and swipe my fingers over the case and it makes it nice and easy to size the brass.
            CALGUNS DICTIONARY "FLIER": when a shooter wants to turn a 1 inch group to a half inch group because he flinched.

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            • #21
              Eljay
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 4985

              Yeah, I find just a real light spritz and shake with the one shot spray just makes everything run really smooth even with 9mm. I never felt the need to remove it after.

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              • #22
                bazineta
                Senior Member
                CGN Contributor
                • Jun 2015
                • 647

                The manuals seem to all tell you to remove it due to it interfering with the case adhering to the chamber during firing. I am probably the least qualified to hold an opinion on that, but it always seemed to me that given the pressures involved, that's a bit hard to swallow. However, lube does for certain attract crud, and crud I definitely don't want in the chamber, so I've always cleaned it off.

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                • #23
                  Dnele928
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 683

                  Heard that too...no need to lube pistol cases. But partly by habit, loading rifle cases, I also continued using One Shot on all cases. Works great, loading is smooth and cycling is smooth. Why not?

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                  • #24
                    Cheep
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 1300

                    When the expander seems sticky, I take a little lube on my finger and just touch the case mouth every few cases and it makes the operation a lot smoother.
                    Originally posted by NOMADCHRIS
                    your asking a question about asking a question ??? just ask the damn question!!!

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                    • #25
                      Eljay
                      Veteran Member
                      • Oct 2005
                      • 4985

                      Originally posted by bazineta
                      The manuals seem to all tell you to remove it due to it interfering with the case adhering to the chamber during firing. I am probably the least qualified to hold an opinion on that, but it always seemed to me that given the pressures involved, that's a bit hard to swallow. However, lube does for certain attract crud, and crud I definitely don't want in the chamber, so I've always cleaned it off.
                      It really depends on what kind of lube you're using. The Hornady One Shot spray says you don't have to remove it. On the other hand it's not very good for sizing rifle brass which is what most people use lube for in the first place. But it's great to smooth out a progressive loading straight necked cartridges, that's for sure.

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                      • #26
                        llazyjs
                        Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 224

                        I re-size and de-prime first then a 3 hour wet tumble with SS pins, 30 minutes in the dehydrator then dry tumble the HOT brass in corn cob and NuFInish for 2 hours. Like new brass with spotless primer pockets and enough wax and corn cob dust that they don't stick in my carbide dies. Works for me.

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                        • #27
                          rcslotcar
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2014
                          • 1100

                          I spray a lite amount of "One Shot" on cases with carbide dies. It makes everything run very smooth. I have ever removed that lube after.

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                          • #28
                            McGuiver
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2016
                            • 1022

                            Lubing Pistol Brass

                            I started making my own case lube. I went on Amazon and purchased 99% rubbing alcohol and liquid lanolin (looks like honey). I mixed it in a spray bottle. 10% lanolin, and 90% alcohol by volume. I spray down 1000 9mm cases and they dry in about a minute and are ready for resizing. No more strong arming your press. I will post some pics later. You barely use any of the spray to lube cases. User Bkoyle has tried it and likes it. He can attest to its usefulness.
                            Last edited by McGuiver; 04-19-2016, 11:39 PM.

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                            • #29
                              cloudsurfr
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2016
                              • 23

                              Originally posted by McGuiver
                              I started making my own case lube. I went on Amazon and purchased 99% rubbing alcohol and liquid lanolin (looks like honey). I mixed it in a spray bottle. 10% lanolin, and 90% alcohol by volume. I spray down 1000 9mm cases and they drive in about a minute and are ready for resizing. No more strong arming your press. I will post some pics later. You barely use any of the spray to lube cases. User Bkoyle has tried it and likes it. He can attest to its usefulness.
                              Same here - DIY Case lube is *supposed* to be nearly identical to Dillon Case Lube.

                              I use a simple 12:1 ratio - 12oz HEET (red bottle only!), to one oz Liquid Lanolin from Amazon like McGuiver. I add a couple .380 cases into the spray bottle to help swirl/mix before spraying.

                              Do i need lube for handgun brass - no. Does it help reduce effort and more importantly smooth press motion - Definitely! Easier and more consistent powder drops w/ less "jerk" on my progressive.

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                              • #30
                                McGuiver
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2016
                                • 1022

                                Here is what I purchased thru Amazon. Works very well. I think it is just like the "Dillon spray lube" but cheaper.


                                I have lubed almost 4k rounds of 9mm and only used about 1/2 inch of the mixed bottle. With the 99% rubbing alcohol it stays mixed pretty well. I always shake it once or twice before spraying just for good measure.




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                                Last edited by McGuiver; 02-24-2016, 10:51 PM. Reason: Removed bad attachments.

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