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  • gbarbo001
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 235

    Question for the .30-06 reloaders

    I've just started reloading .30-06 for my M1 Garand and I'm confused as to the correct cartridge trim length. The published resources I have access to seem to recommend one of two lengths; either 2.494 or 2.484. Neither length recommendation seems to be specific to a particular bullet type or weight. It's just stated as the case trim length. As a newbie to reloading this cartridge I have no idea which length is more appropriate or if it makes a difference. Can someone shed some light on this issue?
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    kdsd731
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 663

    2.494" is the max case length. 2.484" is what you trim your case to.

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    • #3
      ducky_0811
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2013
      • 759

      As above, 2.484". Get some IMR4895, 150/155gr pills and have it!

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      • #4
        gbarbo001
        Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 235

        Originally posted by kdsd731
        2.494" is the max case length. 2.484" is what you trim your case to.
        Sometimes the simple answer is the best answer!

        Thanks for pointing this out to me.

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        • #5
          Bumslie
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Oct 2011
          • 5358

          Originally posted by ducky_0811
          As above, 2.484". Get some IMR4895, 150/155gr pills and have it!
          Dont forget to add 47gr of imr 4895. The only recipe you'll ever need for the garand
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          • #6
            mycrstuff
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2008
            • 1426

            Garands use a flat base bullet not a boat tail. Wideners usually has bulk on the flat base bullets.

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            • #7
              highpower790
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2013
              • 3481

              Originally posted by mycrstuff
              Garands use a flat base bullet not a boat tail. Wideners usually has bulk on the flat base bullets.
              Really?
              Keep it simple!

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              • #8
                LRShooter
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 553

                Originally posted by mycrstuff
                Garands use a flat base bullet not a boat tail. Wideners usually has bulk on the flat base bullets.
                Are you just joking around, because there's absolutely no need to use a flat base bullet.

                I presume my meter is broken.

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                • #9
                  fast54vw
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 637

                  I use flat base in my garand. I also tried some m2 flat base bullets in 300blk out. And we're more accurate than the 147gr 308 bullets I usually use
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                  • #10
                    fguffey
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1408

                    I have no idea which length is more appropriate or if it makes a difference. Can someone shed some light on this issue?
                    Gbarbo001. That puts you into the majority category. Reloaders spend most of their time at the keyboard telling everything they know about head space and then when it comes to demonstrating a working knowledge of head space they start over.

                    I have a chamber that is long from the shoulder to the bolt face. It is .016” longer than a minimum length/full length sized case, or .011” longer from the shoulder to the bolt face than a go-gage length chamber or .002” longer than a field reject length chamber.

                    What is the point? I do not mindlessly trim my cases for that chamber to neither ‘maximum case length nor do I use the ‘trim to length’ I add to the length of the case. I want to cover my chambers with the case.

                    Then there is ‘the datum’, the case length can be measured two ways by reloaders that understand the datum. Some trimmers are designed to trim while set up on the shoulder with total disregard for the length of the case from the shoulder to the case head. I want to know the length of the chamber from the shoulder of the chamber to the bolt face. In the perfect world the 30/06 chamber is go-gage length from the shoulder to the bolt face. I off set the length of the chamber from the shoulder of the chamber to the bolt face with the case. I have always thought that was the reason threads were placed on dies and presses.

                    My cases do not have head space. I can not find the symbol for head space on SAAMI case drawings. I speak where SAAMI speaks and I am silent where SAAMI is silent.

                    F. Guffey

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