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  • captn-tin
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 817

    kernals stuck in 223 cases

    Just got thru sizing, swaging primer pockets, and tumbling about 1,000 rnds 223 cases. While trimmin up case mouths, I noticed there was still a few, maybe 3 - 4 pieces of walnut shell stuck in the cases. Will this hurt to just leave there and load as normal? I wonderin if the polishing media is stuck in lube that didn't get cleaned out of inside of case, and if the lube will have any affect on the powder.The lube is Dillon spray type. Brass was vibrated for about 2 hrs.
    Thanks for any help
  • #2
    pdq_wizzard
    Veteran Member
    • May 2008
    • 3813

    Originally posted by captn-tin
    Just got thru sizing, swaging primer pockets, and tumbling about 1,000 rnds 223 cases. While trimmin up case mouths, I noticed there was still a few, maybe 3 - 4 pieces of walnut shell stuck in the cases. Will this hurt to just leave there and load as normal? I wonderin if the polishing media is stuck in lube that didn't get cleaned out of inside of case, and if the lube will have any affect on the powder.The lube is Dillon spray type. Brass was vibrated for about 2 hrs.
    Thanks for any help
    you need to get the media out of the case, I don't think it will cause big issues, but it will take up powder space, that will change the way the power burns.

    if you are loading to the edge it can cause issues with over pressure.
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    • #3
      troysland
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 2182

      I use this for that same purpose. I have a few on my reloading bench.
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      • #4
        boomer135
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 580

        How are you reloading progressive or single stage?

        If you are using a progressive, simply use a universal deprime die in station #1 to knock out any media.

        If you are using a single stage then during inspection knock them out with a nail or other tool.

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        • #5
          Air
          Senior Member
          • May 2005
          • 1640

          I would try to get out as much as possible, but realistically just make sure the flash holes are clear of any debris and you should be good to go. You can buy a little pick set at Harbor Freight for a few bucks that will assist you, or as posted a little screwdriver. Don't overthink it, just do your best.

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          • #6
            LynnJr
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7958

            Your not tumbling for long enough if the walnut is stuck to your lube.
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            • #7
              Jon Road King
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 926

              Run your tumbler 15 minutes after you add cleaner, but BEFORE you add brass.

              Also, you didn't mention if they were stuck inside the case, or in the flash hole (like i suspect). If that is the case, then just get used looking for it... it happens sometimes. Personally, I load 5.56 on a progressive after all brass is processed, but use a Lee standard de-capper in the first station to knock out any plugged flash holes.
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              • #8
                captn-tin
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2008
                • 817

                Sorry didn't explain better. Media is stuck in the case mouth, not flash holes.

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                • #9
                  TKM
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 10657

                  Use smaller media. I use lizard bedding from Wally World.
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                  • #10
                    hambam105
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7083

                    What is the difference between leaving tumbling media inside your cartridge case during the assembly process, and leaving a few of those peskie gray & white sand pebbles the ranges use to keep the dust level down inside the case?

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                    • #11
                      mycrstuff
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1410

                      Are you using a case/media separator like the ones from Dillon or RCBS? They get most of the media out unlike just shaking the cases with your hands. Also your media may be too wet. It soaks up polish and every so often you should put a used dryer sheet in the tumbler and it will soak up the excess polish.

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                      • #12
                        Seaweed02
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 1650

                        Wet tumbler

                        Or you could invest in a wet tumbler. Even a cheap one from Harbor Freight is very helpful. Dry tumble your brass first, then size/deprime, then wet tumble and your brass is good to go like new.

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                        • #13
                          AandO
                          Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 449

                          Originally posted by boomer135
                          How are you reloading progressive or single stage?

                          If you are using a progressive, simply use a universal deprime die in station #1 to knock out any media.

                          If you are using a single stage then during inspection knock them out with a nail or other tool.
                          That is what I do as well.

                          GTG

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                          • #14
                            hambam105
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 7083

                            When the "kernals'' are sticking to the inside of the case shoulder....
                            A decapping pin might very well too narrow to scrap the inside shoulder.

                            This does happen from time to time when you use something akin to the RCBS lube on the inside of the necks when resizing.

                            I was surprised as heck to see a much more experienced reloader than I wash rifle brass in hot soapy water after using a water soluble case lube on the inside neck of all the rifle brass in the re-forming process.

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                            • #15
                              the86d
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 9587

                              Just use fine-grit cob... it works fine for me, and only one tumble... with some mineral spirits and Brasso (do research before commenting on Brasso).
                              (My lady's allergic to walnuts.)

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