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  • Seesm
    Calguns Addict
    • Nov 2008
    • 7812

    5.56 to .223

    I have a idea but not for sure on how it works... But The reason I am asking is I have heard different things from different people.

    So any help would be great... Thanks

    Ok here goes.

    Will a 5.56 chamber up and shoot ok in most Ar's, Mini 14's or other .223 caliber guns?

    I am pretty sure the .223 will chamber up fine in the 5.56 but not sure on the other way around.

    I have bought .223 but never really looked at or for 5.56 (How much cheaper is the 5.56?)

    It is more powerful usually than the .223 from what I have heard but curious of other downfalls or benefits...

    Is it hard to get as well...?

    Thanks for any and all info...
  • #2
    freakshow10mm
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 3061

    Do NOT fire 5.56x45mm in .223 chambers!! They are NOT the same.

    .223 will safely fire in a 5.56x45 chamber.

    5.56x45 will NOT safely fire in a .223 chamber.

    Check out the ammo oracle for more information.

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    • #3
      bruceflinch
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2006
      • 40127

      Correctomundo Freakshow.

      Check out any reloading manual for the case specs on the 5.56 & .223. The shoulders are angled different.
      Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

      I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

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      • #4
        Seesm
        Calguns Addict
        • Nov 2008
        • 7812

        That is what I had heard butI tried buying some ammo and the sellers said oh it's just "hotter" so goood I did not try it...

        What a bummer seems like the 5.56 would be the better chamber to have...

        How about a super worn out .223 chamber? JK

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        • #5
          Synergy
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2008
          • 14303

          This is why the Wylde chamber came to be.
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          • #6
            Seesm
            Calguns Addict
            • Nov 2008
            • 7812

            HHmmm thanks I did not know that... I suspect the Wylde is just the 5.56 or a larger .223?

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            • #7
              slick_711
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 4400

              Wylde is just a compromise between the two. 5.56 ammo is fine in ARs, Mini-14s, and any MAK-90 (AK variants chambered in .223).

              I come from the other side of the fence where people believe 5.56mm x 45 and .223 REM are the same thing. Perhaps they were different in 1970. Perhaps there are still some residual pressure differences in the loads. But the main difference is in the chamber itself, and most .223 guns are built fairly heavy duty so it shouldn't be a problem.

              But then, how many people really have one of each? And how difficult is it to know the difference and use the correct ammo? Not many, and not very. So I don't understand why it comes up so often and bothers people so much.

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              • #8
                freakshow10mm
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2008
                • 3061

                The 5.56x45 operates at a higher pressure than .223 Remy commercial ammo. However, oddly enough, the .308 Winchester ad 7.62x51 NATO are the exact same in every dimension, except in this cartridge the commecial .308 Win is loaded to higher pressure than the military 7.62x51.

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                • #9
                  mif_slim
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 10089

                  Heres a site you can check out to know everything you need to know about 5.56 and .223.

                  Originally posted by Gottmituns
                  It's not protecting the rights of the 1%, it's IMPOSING new laws because of the 1%.

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                  • #10
                    grywlfbg
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2006
                    • 988

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                    • #11
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57103

                      Originally posted by Synergy
                      This is why the Wylde chamber came to be.
                      The wylde chamber came-to-be because of highpower shooters wanting to shoot 77gr and 80gr bullets.

                      It just "happens" to be a good alternative for 223/5.56 too.
                      Randall Rausch

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                      • #12
                        ar15barrels
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Jan 2006
                        • 57103

                        Originally posted by Seesm
                        HHmmm thanks I did not know that... I suspect the Wylde is just the 5.56 or a larger .223?
                        Wylde is basically a 5.56 chamber, with a tight throat.

                        Randall Rausch

                        AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                        Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                        Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                        Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                        Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                        • #13
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57103

                          Originally posted by freakshow10mm
                          The 5.56x45 operates at a higher pressure than .223 Remy commercial ammo.
                          I would argue that point.
                          US military spec 5.56 is loaded to 223 Rem SAAMI specs.
                          NATO spec 5.56 is loaded hotter than 223 Rem.
                          As all the ammo produced for the US military to buy it would need to meet the US specs and not the NATO specs, it's safe to use any US mil-spec 5.56 in a 223 chamber.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #14
                            ar15barrels
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 57103

                            99% of the time, there's no problem in using 5.56 ammo in a 223 chamber.
                            It's possible that you may be one of the 1% crowd.
                            Proceed slowly and watch for anything irregular.
                            Randall Rausch

                            AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                            Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                            Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                            Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                            Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                            • #15
                              Seesm
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 7812

                              HHmmm so your saying I have a chance...? Thanks... Has anyone ever shot 5.56 in a Mini 14?

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