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  • loopy
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 75

    Need some advice...

    So I just started reloading with a RCBS single stage press. I'm currently loading 9 mm with RCBS 3 die carb set. My overall length for each cartridge is approximately 1.165 which is under spec max of 1.169, so I have no idea why I cannot load 10 rounds into a 10 round magazine. I've used every die in the appropriate process. But can't seem to figure out what I'm doing wrong. I have not crimped the round because I didn't think that would make a difference... what am I doing wrong? I deprimed/sized, then put the case through the expander then into the seater die... The rounds chamber fine... But won't all fit into a mag...

    Wanted to add, I'm using mixed range cases I purchased. And the bullet is 124 gr with a .355 diameter
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    Last edited by loopy; 11-17-2015, 10:14 AM.
  • #2
    Fordtrucks
    Member
    • May 2008
    • 410

    On an auto pistol I would use a taper crimp, the last thing u want is for a bullet to jammed into the case while feeding and raise ur pressures to unsafe levels. That being said not much is needed, just enough to take out the flare and maybe a smidge more.

    Now as to why u can't fit them in ur mag.... well most likely that's not relaoding related, but check ur cases for glock bulge and make sure ur sizing die is going all the way down to the shell holder when the ram is all the way up. On a carbide die u don't want much cam-over but it should be just barely touching.

    But I would sugest cleaning the mags and making sure there is no debris.

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    • #3
      Cheep
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 1322

      Are you saying that the cartridge is .165" UNDER max length? And are you able to load 9 rounds into that mag? Your post doesn't make this clear...
      Originally posted by NOMADCHRIS
      your asking a question about asking a question ??? just ask the damn question!!!

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      • #4
        NewbieLoader
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Feb 2014
        • 392

        Originally posted by Cheep
        Are you saying that the cartridge is .165" UNDER max length? And are you able to load 9 rounds into that mag? Your post doesn't make this clear...
        To add to this post, what is your OAL on the loaded rounds that won't fit into the mag? What part of the round does not fit? Is it too long or too wide? And I agree with Fordtrucks, you need to use the taper crimp, at least to take the flare out of the case mouth after the bullet is seated. Pictures would help a lot.
        I have done so much with so little for so long that now I can do almost anything with nothing at all.

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        • #5
          MarkG35
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2011
          • 580

          Are they new magazines?
          Have you loaded 10 rounds in them before.
          Some new magazines are hesitant to accept that last round until broken in.

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          • #6
            Capybara
            CGSSA Coordinator
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2012
            • 15449

            Doesn't sound like a reloading issue. I agree with the others, new mags can be tough to load to capacity. My Shield 7 and 8 rounders were finger breakers until I shot a lot of rounds through them. Do you have an Uplula? You should be able to easily load them full using an Uplula, even if you can't with your fingers alone.
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            • #7
              BigBronco also not a Cabinetguy
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2009
              • 7075

              Break out your loading manual. I will assume you have one. Next go to the proper page for 9mm. On the first page of the 9mm chapter there should be a blue print of the 9mm cartridge, as there should be one for any caliber cartridge.

              This blueprint should be the SAAMI specifications. Next take your caliper and compare the measurements of your reloaded cartridge and compare them to the SAAMI blueprint. Pay close attention to the diameter of your brass case. This is where the problem may lie. If the diameter of your cases is too large this could explain the ability to only get 9 in your mag. A Lee Factory crimp die may alive your problems.
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              • #8
                liber
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2014
                • 1868

                Originally posted by loopy
                I have not crimp the round because I didn't think that make a difference...
                Really?

                Do they fit in your chamber without crimping them? Normally the pistol case is flared at the mouth to allow the bullet to fit in the case.

                For pistol I have only reload 45ACP. I can't get rounds in my chamber unless I crimp them.

                Do you have a case gauge?
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                • #9
                  loopy
                  Junior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 75

                  My OAL is 1.165, The magazines have been used before many times even tested the magazines with factory rounds when I discovered an issue with my reloads and did not have issues with factory rounds.
                  I'm unsure on how to identify whether or not the round is to long or wide. From what I can tell it's not to long, but I'm unsure.
                  I didn't bother to check the diameter of the brass so I'll check that next... And see if a crimp fixes the issue..

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                  Last edited by loopy; 11-17-2015, 9:54 AM.

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                  • #10
                    loopy
                    Junior Member
                    • Oct 2012
                    • 75

                    So an update, after changing the overall length to 1.155, all 10 rounds fit in the magazines...
                    At 1.165 they fit into the barrel of my XD but would not load more than 7in a magazine. After putting a slight crimp and lowering the bullet deeper into the case they fit into the magazines.....

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