trim&resize vs. resize&trim

[stranded1980]

All the videos I have seen show them grabbing there brass and in a progressive press stage one would be resize, then prime, powder, then seat. So im thinking that they trimmed before resize.

Hmm...back to the original poster's question, I also load rifle on a progressive press (Dillon 550), however, I resize then trim.

As Kingfamous noted, on a progressive press, it appears that individuals are resizing in station 1, and therefore must have trimmed before hand. Me personally, I call my rifle reloading "Semi-Progressive". Here is my workflow:

1. Deprime on single stage press.
2. Tumble in stainless steel media for only 1 hour. No need to go longer; just getting the dirt and grime off to save the trim die.
3. Lubricate brass
4. Resize case on single stage press.
5. Trim case
6. Chamfer/debur case (unless I use the Dillon trim die and 1200B trimmer for 5.56)
7. Tumble in stainless steel media for 1 or 2 hours. Removes case lube and any brass shavings, cleans stuck grime out of primer pocket.
8. Allow dry for 24 hours.
9. Tumble in corn cob media for 1 hour with Nufinish and Odorless Mineral Spirits. This adds a long term polish to the case.
10. Reload on Dillon 550 with a Lee Collet Neck die in station 1 (the decapper removes any stuck corn cob, as well as hopefully improving case neck concentricity), prime on down stroke, powder charging in station 2, bullet seating in station 3, Lee crimp die in station 4.

These are not long distance, benchrest precision rounds, however, they are great for blasting, and perform adequately at the range. They also look factory new, and chamber flawlessly.

The obvious problem many will have with my workflow is that they don't want to handle the case as many times as I do, because it makes the process too long for them. Some individuals take a long time separating stainless steel media from cases, and the thought of doing it twice per case is unacceptable; however, it doesn't take me that long, so I'm ok doing it. I also have limited time to reload, but I'm in love with my results, and generally stretch my case prep over the course of a week in spare moments after work.

Best of luck Kingfamous!

[Ferrum]

CUT THE CRAP!

I can guarantee you that if the BS continues, there will be members with less access to the reloading forum.

[JMP]

I think it is good practice to size from the shoulder when you trim (AFTER sizing). This will give you the same length necks. If it results in cases of differing lengths, then you sized the cases in correctly or you have a bad set of brass.

[LynnJr]

When trimming there are options, the trim die is another option. Benchresters are not shooting the same rifle, there could be $2,000+ dollars difference. I did notice you just caught up with setting up on the shoulder for trimming. There is something outside of reloading called 'included'. When trimming a case while set up on the shoulder the length of the case from the shoulder to the case head is not included. Meaning? You are wrong about consistent case length, again the case has two lengths, one from the datum to the case head and the other from the datum to the end of the neck.

Going back to something as basic as the L.E. Wilson case gage. The Wilson case gage measures the case length from the datum to the end of the neck and from the datum to the case head. Most reloaders use the case gage as a 'drop-in' gage.

F. Guffey

Frank
I didn't just catch up with setting up on the shoulder.
If you are getting inconsistencies and I believe you are it stems from your reloading practices of using feeler gages.
No benchrest Shooter reloads using your methodology.
Maybe you should ask how they do it and take the time to follow there instruction.
And a $2000 difference in the rifle means nothing about the subject being discussed.
You either know how to trim your brass to 0.001 or less or you don't.
I would tell you how but it would just get deleted.

[Ferrum]

Frank
I didn't just catch up with setting up on the shoulder.
If you are getting inconsistencies and I believe you are it stems from your reloading practices of using feeler gages.
No benchrest Shooter reloads using your methodology.
Maybe you should ask how they do it and take the time to follow there instruction.
And a $2000 difference in the rifle means nothing about the subject being discussed.
You either know how to trim your brass to 0.001 or less or you don't.
I would tell you how but it would just get deleted.

Lynn, you obviously know what your doing. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge... But, you can't seem to post without throwing some kind of dig in there. No, I did not ban you, but I have been deleting posts since you've been back.

If you could post without the little digs, it would save you the time of writing and me the time to delete your post.

Once again, I appreciate the information you provide and if you need to talk about this further, please feel free to PM me.

[TMB 1]

What is a dig/little dig?

[JMP]

I thought it was Guffey making the digs, but it could be that I just don't understand his posts.

[TMB 1]

I had to look it up. I thought dig meant dig a hole or used in like "can you dig it" as in understand or like.


Never thought of dig as - "A word to use when you're insulting someone. Like a "burn" or a "blast". An insult. A dig isn't usually meant seriously. It's normally used in a joking manner with a hint of truth."- From Urban dictionary.

[LynnJr]

Liber
I haven't taken any digs at you.
I am here to dispell much of what is written here because it isn't the correct answer.
If you have only been reloading for nine months and you are getting the variations you describe there is a problem with your method.
When you came on here to describe your method my skin started to itch because your method isn't working for you.
No digs here from me just people not communicating well.

Ferrum
I will not post here anymore. I will leave just like everyone else who actually knows what they are talking about.
I wouldn't want your job good luck.