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  • TexasJackKin
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 718

    Squib!

    Had my first squib today.

    The best estimate is, I've loaded and shot something a bit north of 50,000 rounds and this is my first mishap. I'll tell the story, to tell on myself, and to be a warning to others.

    Shooting my Glock 23, at an indoor range, I pulled the trigger and NOTHING, but a click. I was proud of the fact that there was no perceivable movement of the pistol (no flinch) but thought wow, that's odd, must have had my first dud.

    Pulled the slide back and a empty case came out, at which point it's obvious I was brain dead. (my wife and I have been shooting some cheap .22LR ammo lately that occasionally short cycles, cocks the pistol, but puts the empty case back in the chamber, so I think my brain thought the same thing had happened with my Glock) So, I go to chamber a fresh round, and the slide won't close......

    So, I lock the slide back, place my thumb in the ejection port to look down the barrel (and hope my wife isn't looking, as that correctly makes her nervous) and can't see my thumb, seems odd, it is kind of poorly lighted right where I'm at, so I find a fired .22 shell laying on the floor and drop it in the muzzle and it won't fall though......Yup, I've got squib stuck in the barrel.

    In all my years of reloading (about 45 years) I've never had anything like this happen, so it wasn't the first thing I thought of......luckily the bullet was lodged in such a way that I couldn't chamber the next round.....

    The round was loaded on a Hornady Lock-n-Load progressive loader, with shaking the gun around at the range, I'm unable to determine if it was a lack of powder or a bad primer. There was some residue at the base of the bullet, that I initially thought was powder residue, but it could just be burnt residue from the primer, Like I said the powder would have been mostly dumped out at the range, before I got a chance to do a complete CSI at home.

    PAY ATTENTION!! Luckily I'm only embarrassed, it could have been much worse
    Mike M.
    Dayton, NV
    NRA Life member
    Front Sight DG
    CRPA, USPSA, AOPA, EAA, CCW: NV, CA & AZ
    Yes, I'm related to Texas Jack
  • #2
    bruceflinch
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 40127

    Was the primer spent in the squib load?
    You should have heard something, but an indoor range can be pretty load to hear the pop of a squib load.
    Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

    I belong to the group that uses firearms, and knows which bathroom to use.

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    • #3
      Pablo5959
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 1288

      I once let my powder drop run out on my LNL progressive. I realized I may have set a bullet without checking the powder on one or two.
      I ended up pulling about 40 that was in the tray. I found one without powder.
      I figured pulling 40 was worth not having a squib.

      Glad all is well OP

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      • #4
        Eljay
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 4985

        If you have a squib rod in your range bag (and you should), it's not a bad habit to get into to just double check the barrel real quick whenever anything weird happens. Just takes a moment and there's no rush at the range.
        Last edited by Eljay; 09-06-2015, 7:26 AM.

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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          I had a squib tonight and it blew unburned powder all over my hand. I'm not sure why all the powder didn't ignite. Enough ignited to eject the brass and push the bullet through the bore until it stopped slightly protruding from the muzzle.
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          • #6
            shoebox56
            Member
            • Feb 2012
            • 368

            Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
            I had a squib tonight and it blew unburned powder all over my hand. I'm not sure why all the powder didn't ignite. Enough ignited to eject the brass and push the bullet through the bore until it stopped slightly protruding from the muzzle.
            Maybe tumbling media was stuck in the primer flash hole? That's assuming you tumble after depriming.
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            • #7
              TexasJackKin
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2014
              • 718

              Originally posted by bruceflinch
              Was the primer spent in the squib load?
              You should have heard something, but an indoor range can be pretty load to hear the pop of a squib load.
              it was enough to push the bullet into the beginning of the rifling, that is to say the front of the bullet had some marks where it hit the rifling and stopped. it was a 165 grn extreme plated bullet. CCI small pistol primer and (should have been) a light load of Hodgeon clays.
              Mike M.
              Dayton, NV
              NRA Life member
              Front Sight DG
              CRPA, USPSA, AOPA, EAA, CCW: NV, CA & AZ
              Yes, I'm related to Texas Jack

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              • #8
                TexasJackKin
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2014
                • 718

                Originally posted by Eljay
                If you have a squib in your range rod (and you should), it's not a bad habit to get into to just double check the barrel real quick whenever anything weird happens. Just takes a moment and there's no rush at the range.
                I don't have a range rod, but you can bet I will now!
                Mike M.
                Dayton, NV
                NRA Life member
                Front Sight DG
                CRPA, USPSA, AOPA, EAA, CCW: NV, CA & AZ
                Yes, I'm related to Texas Jack

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                • #9
                  Eljay
                  Veteran Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 4985

                  I meant to say "squib rod" in your "range bag" and somehow that all got combined together a bit.

                  But yes, if you get some brass rod at the hardware store and cut it down to maybe 8 inches long and toss it in your bag that's a handy thing to have. Stick a mallet in your trunk and you're really ready for anything...

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                  • #10
                    TKM
                    Onward through the fog!
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 10657

                    Shop gunsmithing tools (604) at Brownells, including bench blocks, hammer & punch sets, screwdrivers, and tool kits for firearm maintenance and repairs.


                    Get the kit. Turn down the little ones that screw onto a cleaning rod until they(at least one anyway) will fit a .22 barrel. Ask me how I know that they don't fit out of the bag.
                    It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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                    • #11
                      CSACANNONEER
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                      • Dec 2006
                      • 44093

                      Originally posted by shoebox56
                      Maybe tumbling media was stuck in the primer flash hole? That's assuming you tumble after depriming.
                      I wet tumbled with spent primers still in. But, I agree that it sounds like the flash hole was somehow blocked.

                      Originally posted by TexasJackKin
                      I don't have a range rod, but you can bet I will now!
                      Get a piece of 1/4-3/8 inch solid brass rod several inches longer than your barrel and a small hammer to tap the rod. If you can't find brass rod at your local hardware store, Lowe's, Home Depot, etc., shoot me a PM with the calibers you shoot and barrel lengths and, I'll find something that'll work for you.
                      Last edited by CSACANNONEER; 09-06-2015, 8:39 AM.
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                      • #12
                        TexasJackKin
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2014
                        • 718

                        [QUOTE=CSACANNONEER;16882043
                        Get a piece of 1/4-3/8 inch solid brass rod several inches longer than your barrel and a small hammer to tap the rod. If you can't find brass rod at your local hardware store, Lowe's, Home Depot, etc., shoot me a PM with the calibers you shoot and barrel lengths and, I'll find something that'll work for you.[/QUOTE]

                        Thank you for the offer, but I'm all set.
                        Thanks again,
                        Mike M.
                        Dayton, NV
                        NRA Life member
                        Front Sight DG
                        CRPA, USPSA, AOPA, EAA, CCW: NV, CA & AZ
                        Yes, I'm related to Texas Jack

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