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  • ILVSMOG
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    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Sep 2009
    • 611

    projectile weight variation

    How much variation do you tolerate for projectile weights? I'm working on a .223 load with Barnes 36gr Varmint Grenade bullets. I've got a good load worked up, but I've continued to see some pretty dramatic flyers, on paper. I weighed a recent box of bullets, and I've seen everything from 35.1gr up to 37.0gr. As a percentage, that's a pretty big swing. I've separated out a batch that weighs between 35.8gr and 36.2gr. That's about 60% of the box. Am I being too picky, or not picky enough?

    Thanks!
  • #2
    highpower790
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3481

    Probably being to picky.Sierra,Hornady,Berger all have some variance,and the Varmint Grenade is not a match bullet...don't worry.
    Last edited by highpower790; 07-23-2015, 5:27 PM.
    Keep it simple!

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    • #3
      ILVSMOG
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      • Sep 2009
      • 611

      Barrel is brand new and seating depth is within .003" I've never weighed projectiles before, so I don't know how good or bad this batch is. Only reason I did it, was that I read somewhere that these particular projectiles can vary pretty wildly.

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      • #4
        JMP
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        • Feb 2012
        • 17056

        Originally posted by ILVSMOG
        I weighed a recent box of bullets, and I've seen everything from 35.1gr up to 37.0gr. As a percentage, that's a pretty big swing. I've separated out a batch that weighs between 35.8gr and 36.2gr. That's about 60% of the box. Am I being too picky, or not picky enough?
        No, you are not picky enough. A 2gr divergence on a 36gr bullet is unacceptable. I wouldn't use bullets that have a 2gr divergence on a 200gr bullet. The most I'd go is 0.1gr unless it is blasting ammo. That said, the geometric consistency is actually even more important than the weight consistency. For solid bullets, I'd expect within 0.05gr, but I use monolithic bullets rather than just lead free. With monoliths, weight variance guarantees geometric variance.

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        • #5
          bsumoba
          Veteran Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 4217

          2 gr variation is a lot...but then again, it is not match quality.

          On a batch of 180gr hybrids for my 7mm, I would see maybe a 0.4gr spread max, and that is because a few bullets were on the extremes. I just use these as foulers

          I would venture to say that if you measured base-to-ogive, that you have some variation as well.

          Sort and shoot them in batches, and you will be fine.
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          • #6
            LynnJr
            Calguns Addict
            • Jan 2013
            • 7958

            Send them to Barnes and tell them how poorly they shoot.
            They will most likely want those others back for quality control training.
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            • #7
              ILVSMOG
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              • Sep 2009
              • 611

              I was able to find two major groups (by weight) in about 300 projectiles. 35.9-36.1 and 36.3-36.5. 64 out of the 300ish fell outside those two groups, some by a LOT. I'll go through 1 group, then the next. Not sure what to do about the 64 oddballs. I've never weighed my projectiles before, so I wasn't sure what to expect. I'm a hunter, not a benchrest guy and I've never had a problem before. Might be time to look for a new lead-free, varmint blaster after I use up the last of these Barnes pieces.
              Last edited by ILVSMOG; 07-23-2015, 10:20 PM.

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              • #8
                sghart
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2012
                • 1224

                If you are convinced that your scale is accurate (compare side by side with another if possible) I would contact Barnes and let them know. Your flyers are probably not caused by you.

                I shoot a Savage Model 12 in 223 with a Hakko 40 power scope. I stopped wasting money on Sierra Match King bullets when the Hornady bulk bullets performed almost as well.

                Best of luck.
                Last edited by sghart; 07-23-2015, 10:21 PM.

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