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  • duckman1
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Aug 2009
    • 3743

    Lube and primers

    I am setting up a new Dillion 650 to reload .223 Remington. (Steel Dies)

    I have read as much information both online and printed as I can locate and they all recommend that cases be lubed prior to reloading and there are many ways to accomplish this task. I have also learned that lube may effect the primers but I cannot find any information on how to prevent contamination.

    In order to re-size and de-cap it is recommended that the inside of the neck be lubed, are you cleaning the case neck before moving on? Is the lube in the neck not enough to cause a problem? How do you do it?

    I've cleaned my first batch of brass and completed the de-capping and sizing I'll try and pick up my components this weekend to get started.
  • #2
    9mmepiphany
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 8075

    Most folks that I know who reload .223, I don't, re-tumble the cases after sizing to clean the lube off
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    • #3
      someoneeasy
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 2372

      I lube before resizing and decapping. Afterwards I throw it back in the tumbler to clean off the lube.

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      • #4
        MJB
        CGSSA Associate
        • Sep 2010
        • 5925

        I use "one shot" lube in a can never had to remove any of it.....I spray from the top
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        • #5
          baih777
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2011
          • 5680

          I use Dillon lube. Read the directions. The trick is to spray it on and let it dry at least three minutes for me. I do spray inside the necks. I leave the lube on till I am done trimming. Then wet tumble.
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          • #6
            JagerDog
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2011
            • 15254

            I don't load rifle in the type of volume you'll be seeking with a 650.

            I lube with One-shot srayed at a bit of an angle to get a bit n the mouth. Or I roll a nylon bore brush over a pad of lube and run the brush down the case neck interior...re-applying every 5 or so cases.

            I've never had a hint of powder/primer contamination from lube.
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            • #7
              NoHeavyHitter
              Banned
              • Jul 2011
              • 2876

              One word.. "carbidexpanderball"

              Yeah, I know.

              I use some Imperial graphite - if needed, but it's messy as all hell..

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              • #8
                duckman1
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2009
                • 3743

                Thank you everyone, first load jitters.

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                • #9
                  hambam105
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 7083

                  Everyone I know throws the lubed cases back into the tumbler after FL resizing bottle neck cases.

                  Lubrication on the inside of every bottleneck rifle case is the rule, otherwise you distort the shoulder, or that is what I'm told by people with experience greater than mine.

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                  • #10
                    bruce381
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2452

                    I use RCBS water soluble case lube 2 then when sized throw the cases in hot water and soak then dry all the lube washes of without soap.

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                    • #11
                      Enfield47
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 6385

                      Originally posted by hambam105
                      Lubrication on the inside of every bottleneck rifle case is the rule, otherwise you distort the shoulder, or that is what I'm told by people with experience greater than mine.
                      I use Imperial sizing wax and maybe every 5th case or so I'll put a little lube in the case mouth and I've never had any issues. I've done a lot of bottle neck cases in several calibers and haven't seen any problems yet.

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                      • #12
                        CSACANNONEER
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                        • Dec 2006
                        • 44094

                        Originally posted by NoHeavyHitter
                        One word.. "carbidexpanderball"

                        Yeah, I know.

                        I use some Imperial graphite - if needed, but it's messy as all hell..
                        Have you tried using the Imperial's Application Media? It is super easy to use and not messy at all.
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                        • #13
                          hambam105
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7083

                          I just started lubing the inside of every bottle neck case myself. I used to go 1:5 or so. I didn't see any bad effects my old way. A more experienced reloader told me what I told you. I'll see what happens.

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                          • #14
                            Jon Road King
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 926

                            Cheap Bastard Lube Best lube ever. You're welcome And in case you don't want to read the whole thread, just put about 100 cases in a ziplock bag, spray in the lube, shake then dump out and let the alcohol evaporate before you resize. VERY important to let the alcohol evaporate or you will get stuck cases.

                            Oh, and tumble>lube>resize/deprime>tumble (but I reload on a progressive, and toss in a Universal Lee Decapper in stage 1 to make sure the flash hole is cleaned out of any media that might get jammed in there on the second tumble)
                            Last edited by Jon Road King; 06-07-2015, 7:15 AM.
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                            • #15
                              savagemann
                              Member
                              • Jul 2012
                              • 286

                              Originally posted by Jon Road King
                              Cheap Bastard Lube Best lube ever. You're welcome And in case you don't want to read the whole thread, just put about 100 cases in a ziplock bag, spray in the lube, shake then dump out and let the alcohol evaporate before you resize. VERY important to let the alcohol evaporate or you will get stuck cases.

                              Oh, and tumble>lube>resize/deprime>tumble (but I reload on a progressive, and toss in a Universal Lee Decapper in stage 1 to make sure the flash hole is cleaned out of any media that might get jammed in there on the second tumble)
                              I use the cheap bastard method as well, but put about 500 pieces of .223 into a 6qt sterite container, shake side to side and most if not all of the cases stand up straight.
                              Then mist a few times with the lube.
                              After sizing, I throw all the brass into a small 1 gallon bucket filled about half way with 99% iso alcohol.
                              Soak a minute and shake with the lid on.
                              Strain all the brass out while collecting the iso into a large jar.
                              Lay the brass out on an old tshirt. Fold the brass up in the shirt and roll dry for a few seconds.
                              Into a cheap baking pan and it goes in the oven at 150* for a few minutes.
                              The ISO evaporates in minutes at that temp.
                              Important to keep the oven door open though. You don't want that iso to flash.

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