Looking for data on reduced 41 mag

[JDR41]

I would like to find some load data to get velocities around 7-800 FPS for my 41 mag, and I want to use 210 gr bullets.

Any and all help appreciated.

I already have the following powders:

Title group

Trail Boss

[Major Danger]

You can probably get that velocity with a "heavier" charge of trail boss. The recommended charge weights of trail boss is determined my the case volume available under the seated bullet. You can safely load 50-100% case volume, but do not compress the powder.

Maybe try data for tite group for a 180 or 200 gr lead bullet for 40 sw or 10mm. The extra case volume in the .41 should keep things safe.

Look in lyman cast bullet manual for other published data.

[JDR41]

Thanks,

I never thought about out of the box ideas.

I'll check this out and be vigilant about the volume. What are some of the cleaner burning powders?

[Major Danger]

Looking for data on reduced 41 mag

Want to clarify that the volume rule for trail boss is intended for cast lead bullets. I was assuming you were using lead with the low velocities. It will work with jacketed bullets too but maybe start with more than 50% volume with jacketed to safeguard against a bullet stuck in the barrel. Also, any data you find for cast lead bullets should be used with lead, not jacketed.

Powders being "clean" or "dirty" have never bothered me and I don't really pay attention to that myself. A lot of the time powders will burn cleaner with higher pressure, so in your case a higher charge of fast burning pistol powder should be good

[bruce381]

wrong powder for U but 5 gr 231 is nice and lite shooting

[sl0re10]

Want to clarify that the volume rule for trail boss is intended for cast lead bullets. I was assuming you were using lead with the low velocities. It will work with jacketed bullets too but maybe start with more than 50% volume with jacketed to safeguard against a bullet stuck in the barrel. Also, any data you find for cast lead bullets should be used with lead, not jacketed.

Powders being "clean" or "dirty" have never bothered me and I don't really pay attention to that myself. A lot of the time powders will burn cleaner with higher pressure, so in your case a higher charge of fast burning pistol powder should be good

and just trail boss. Other powders can behave in unpredictable ways in low case volume amounts (less might not always mean lower pressure). Not safe to experiment with most other powders the way you can with trail boss.

[JDR41]

bruce381,

Why do you say wrong powder, can you elaborate? I would like informative material not just your opinionated phrases.

Please give us more than two cents worth.

[JDR41]

I have found data of people using 6.5 grains of both "Trail Boss" and "TiteGroup" with Berry 210 grain Plated bullets, should the plated be treated the same as Jacketed or lead or neither?

I am not ready to do anything yet but give a lot of thought to everything I read and communicate with others.

I have measured 6.5 grains of both Trailboss and TiteGroup in a 41 mag case and the Trailboss leaves maybe 1/16-1/8" from the base of the bullet, and the TiteGroup just barely if that reaches 50% volume.

I can see how people can if not putting all of their attention to what they are doing could overcharge the TiteGroup, but again you shouldn't be reloading if you aren't paying full attention.

I take my time and hand load each round as I'm not in a hurry to kill myself or someone else.

I may want to load some Jacketed bullets and if I do one of the main concerns it getting enough charge to make it out of the barrel.


JDR

[Fordtrucks]

JDR I think Bruce just meant that 231 wasn't one of the powders u mentioned. He was trying to give his experiance with a successfull load.

[Major Danger]

wrong powder for U but 5 gr 231 is nice and lite shooting

I think he just meant it wasn't a powder you already have. Nothing wrong with that powder or load.

As for plated bullets, In my experience you can use data for lead or jacketed. BUT, be careful with the starting load for lead data. You will probably not stick a plated bullet with even min lead data, but watch out for it. It's a pain to push out a jacketed bullet from a revolver (how do I know?) Likewise, it's recommended not to push plated beyond 1200-1300 fps. It's even harder to push out a separated jacket ring.

[bruce381]

JDR I think Bruce just meant that 231 wasn't one of the powders u mentioned. He was trying to give his experiance with a successfull load.

yes that what i ment he did not list 231 as powder he HAS

[3006mv]

Why do you want to do this? It is a magnum caliber.
The lowest velocities for a lead 210 gr boolit is in the 1100 fps range according to 4th ed. Lyman cast book. They also mention Unique will provide the lowest velocities.

At any rate this may help, I always go to this site for cast help

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?62280-Light-41-Magnum-Loads

[JDR41]

If you have to know why I'm doing this is I have two 41 Magnum pistols left of my collection of many and due to medical reasons I can't handle heavy recoil any more, but just would like to be able to get out to the range and shoot the only two I have left.

[bruce381]

I treat Plated as lead for loading titgroup @ 5 grs will work fine also do not duble charge!

[at_liberty]

I would like to find some load data to get velocities around 7-800 FPS for my 41 mag, and I want to use 210 gr bullets.

Any and all help appreciated.

I already have the following powders:

Title group

Trail Boss

You could also investigate 41 Special, requiring you to shorten your magnum cases while achieving the necessary pressures at that desired velocity.