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  • Atlast357
    Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 414

    Had my first squib

    Happened with my ladder loads.
    Was testing out varing gr amounts of Power Pistol. Loaded up 5 rounds between 5 and 6 grs each.
    All went fine till the last one. Pop..... just like a primer only. I have read about these, and I also load black powder guns with primer caps and sounded just like one
    of those which is a common failure. Held the gun pointed down range for a while, in black powder these could be a"hang fire" or delayed ignition so I treated it the same, possibly ignite in few seconds .It of course didn't.
    Dropped the mag, field stripped the gun ,and there it was sitting in the breech looking back at me.
    Don't know why , but I missed loading that casemust have been distracted.
    Lesson learned. Check and double check, then take a look again before I seat a bullet .........WHEW
    Last edited by Atlast357; 04-10-2015, 7:56 AM.
  • #2
    Germz
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Apr 2013
    • 4691

    good catch
    Retired Account

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    • #3
      Jeep67cj5
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2013
      • 691

      You got luck....luckily you weren't shooting fast

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      • #4
        rsrocket1
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 2774

        No big deal. Now you know what it feels like. I hope you had a range rod (brass rod) and hammer with you. It's standard equipment in my bag and driving out a bullet from a handgun is like putting on tire chains on your car. Best to practice at home than to learn out on the firing line. In casting, it's the same method as "slugging the bore" so there is some practical uses for the technique.

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        • #5
          glock_this
          Calguns Addict
          • Dec 2005
          • 8225

          I had 2, two, in one day thanks to some crap .223 reloads bought here years ago. I had only read about them before, never seen one in person.

          In my case, I chambered the round and when pulling the trigger... click no bang. Ok, no biggie, dud round. It happens. I eject the round BUT when you are shooting 500 or so rounds in a day you don't pay that much attention to the ejected round after about the 100th round. So, I failed to notice the "dud" ejected BUT had not bullet in it. Why? Because the bullet was in my barrel. How did I come to find out? Once the round was ejected, the next round was stripped from the mag and chambered and as the bolt slams home I feel/hear an odd type of thud. I look and see my bolt is not closed. Hmmm... so I eject the round, keeping the bolt open, and see it go flying (at a nice perfect 3-4pm ejection pattern thank you) and I pick it up and WTF! The bullet is pushed back into the case! I knew then, instantly, what I was dealing with. I had a rifle cleaning kit and fortunately it literally took just 3-4 taps with only medium hand pressure to tap out the bullet. I know these squibs can be far worse to get out and far more catastrophic of an outcome if the squib is down far enough to fully chamber a round and fire it behind it. Scary.

          It happened again an hour later on a different weapon. Same scenario, same results, same fix. Twice in 1 day! I have them both hanging on a chain right now. That ammo was done then for the day.

          Sure enough, later that night, I started to really inspect this ammo. Since it was reloads of course there were some dented cases. But what I also found were some bullets seated at slight angles and in a few cases, what appears to be some sort of discoloration between the bullet and the case. Almost like the powder had gone bad. Anyway, I shoot a lot of handgun reloads and never an issue like this. But these .223 reloads, I never shoot rifle reloads as I always shoot factory new, I think they were a real, real bad batch as throughout the day I had those 2 squibs, a dozen duds (before the squibs) and all of the duds had strong primer strikes. So bad primers or no powder.
          10 +1 in the chamber

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          • #6
            Atlast357
            Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 414

            Well SOB got another one. Different gun , copper plated bullet, the first was uncoated, same primers and powder both 9mm, but this time the case stove piped with a lot of soot .
            Light powder load or not crimped enough ?
            Last edited by Atlast357; 04-11-2015, 9:08 AM.

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            • #7
              Dagoman
              Junior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 10

              Thank God your daughter wasn't shooting those, know what I mean?

              Mine did, but I taught her what to recognize what a squib is and practiced the squib procedure with her over and over, it paid off. She got one and did that right thing. It is scary for sure.

              Now I try to remind fellow shooters how to watch for squibs. How many shooters think about that?

              Thank you for your post good one.

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              • #8
                bruce381
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 2454

                load long enough you will have them maybe a double charge too.

                Be careful and never think you know it all i have learned from that

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                • #9
                  ElDub1950
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 5688

                  Has anyone ever had a squib in a semi-auto handgun that actually cycled the gun? I've made 3 squib rounds. All were obvious and none cycled. I'm sure the potential for not noticing a squib in a revolver or bolt gun is higher, but I 'think' they're hard to miss in a semi-auto.

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                  • #10
                    bruce381
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2454

                    Originally posted by ElDub1950
                    Has anyone ever had a squib in a semi-auto handgun that actually cycled the gun? I've made 3 squib rounds. All were obvious and none cycled. I'm sure the potential for not noticing a squib in a revolver or bolt gun is higher, but I 'think' they're hard to miss in a semi-auto.
                    It happens you have to be on DUH mode but it happens.

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                    • #11
                      roc_my_tims
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1530

                      Wow never though of if someone else is shoot. Even though my wife on simi likes shooting with me. Guess shes now going to have to go through squib training also.

                      Thanks for the tip

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                      • #12
                        Atlast357
                        Member
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 414

                        Originally posted by roc_my_tims
                        Wow never though of if someone else is shoot. Even though my wife on simi likes shooting with me. Guess shes now going to have to go through squib training also.

                        Thanks for the tip
                        Yup, there is a big difference between a "BOOM" sound with felt recoil and pop sound no felt recoil.

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