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  • LA.308
    Member
    • Jul 2013
    • 330

    TrueCrypt gone??

    So I just visited TrueCrypt's site to take a look at some documentation and find out the whole project is dead. I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet. So now what???? Seems they're recommending we use BitLocker which is what comes with the new Windows OS? I dunno ....
  • #2
    Joe
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2006
    • 5730

    Yup it's done. The general feeling is the release before the final is the most secure

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    • #3
      LA.308
      Member
      • Jul 2013
      • 330

      The last one is secure for how long though? What are the chances that someone finds a way to break through? Once that's done, it's all over with since there won't be any updates with security patches.

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      • #4
        Joe
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2006
        • 5730

        Well. Ya. But that doesn't mean anything on the market is secure. In fact, almost everything besides truecrypt is confirmed as having an nsa backdoor.

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        • #5
          LA.308
          Member
          • Jul 2013
          • 330

          Hmmm. Well, there's lots of talk going on and speculation that the project may continue. Hopefully it does. Whether it'll be as secure as it was before, who knows.

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          • #6
            Deimos887
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 1673

            support and updates for TrueCrypt were dropped in 2008, I believe.

            VeraCrypt is based on TrueCrypt, handles exactly the same, sort of "product improvement" on the last version of TrueCrypt, last updated a few days ago.

            I've been using it for a few months, no complaints.

            Download VeraCrypt for free. Open source disk encryption with strong security for the Paranoid. VeraCrypt is a free disk encryption software brought to you by IDRIX (https://www.idrix.fr) and based on TrueCrypt 7.1a. It adds enhanced security to the algorithms used for system and partitions encryption making it immune to new developments in brute-force attacks.
            Last edited by Deimos887; 09-09-2014, 7:28 PM. Reason: add link

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            • #7
              skunkbad
              Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 147

              Originally posted by Deimos887
              support and updates for TrueCrypt were dropped in 2008, I believe.

              VeraCrypt is based on TrueCrypt, handles exactly the same, sort of "product improvement" on the last version of TrueCrypt, last updated a few days ago.

              I've been using it for a few months, no complaints.

              http://sourceforge.net/projects/vera...urce=directory
              That's interesting, but even still, when was the last time somebody had their truecrypt volume cracked? If you use a super strong password, the chances of somebody brute forcing your volume successfully is practically zero. It is nice to see that a truecrypt fork lives on...

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              • #8
                lorax3
                Super Moderator
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Jan 2009
                • 4633

                Originally posted by LA.308
                So I just visited TrueCrypt's site to take a look at some documentation and find out the whole project is dead. I haven't seen anyone bring this up yet. So now what???? Seems they're recommending we use BitLocker which is what comes with the new Windows OS? I dunno ....
                Yup. It's dead, and we don't know why. It could be they just got tired of developing it (their story) or it's another LavaBit and the FisaCourt/NSA is demanding their private keys.

                In any event, I unfortunately would recommend you find another solution.
                You think you know, but you have no idea.

                The information posted here is not legal advice. If you seek legal advice hire an attorney who is familiar with all the facts of your case.

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                • #9
                  Passcovery
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2014
                  • 1

                  I agree. We do not know the reasons for project closing.

                  As for protection reliability, everything is really OK. We studied the code when we were developing password recovery software for TrueCrypt and our opinion fit with the opinion of independent auditors - TrueCrypt code is high-quality and the algorithms are strong.

                  Here is a link to the audit that was carried out in April 2014: https://opencryptoaudit.org/

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                  • #10
                    1st Generation Gun Owner
                    Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 123

                    Originally posted by Joe
                    Well. Ya. But that doesn't mean anything on the market is secure. In fact, almost everything besides truecrypt is confirmed as having an nsa backdoor.
                    Switch to another open source program. On Linux there's LUKS/cryptsetup for volume encryption. If you're really concerned about backdoors, you should only be running open source software.

                    Originally posted by lorax3
                    Yup. It's dead, and we don't know why. It could be they just got tired of developing it (their story) or it's another LavaBit and the FisaCourt/NSA is demanding their private keys.

                    In any event, I unfortunately would recommend you find another solution.
                    I doubt that it's another LavaBit. If it was, then why did they lie about the reason instead of posting a cryptic message like LavaBit did? There may be some something fishy going on, but I don't think it's that.

                    Originally posted by Passcovery
                    I agree. We do not know the reasons for project closing.

                    As for protection reliability, everything is really OK. We studied the code when we were developing password recovery software for TrueCrypt and our opinion fit with the opinion of independent auditors - TrueCrypt code is high-quality and the algorithms are strong.

                    Here is a link to the audit that was carried out in April 2014: https://opencryptoaudit.org/
                    I didn't know about the audit. Thanks!


                    Security updates for crypto software might not help as much as people think. Once your data has been encrypted, either it was encrypted strongly, or it wasn't. Updating the software won't fix your poorly encrypted files.

                    For example, a while back a problem was found with the public key generator in Debian. If you were using a key generated with the broken generator, it wasn't enough to install the update to the generator. You also had to generate new keys to replace your old ones, and then make sure that others knew not to trust the old ones anymore.

                    If, for example, TrueCrypt was generating bad volume keys, fixing that would require re-encrypting the entire volume. Not all problems would require solutions that drastic. Some might only require generating a new header.

                    It's also possible to have the same kinds of problems that other software can have. (Data leaks, code execution, etc.) For those, the updates will be about as useful as updates to any other software, which usually means you're fine unless they already attacked you.
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                    • #11
                      lakai
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 729

                      Truecrypt was compromised by NSA so developers dropped the project. They were liked served with a NSL but managed to alert users via warrant canary.

                      As on the website.

                      "Using TrueCrypt is not secure as it may contain unfixed security issues"

                      isolate the first letter of each word: (U)sing (T)rueCrypt (i)s (n)ot (s)ecure (a)s (i)t (m)ay (c)ontain (u)nfixed (s)ecurity (i)ssues

                      utinsaimcusi = uti nsa im cu si
                      That is latin for "if im with the use of the NSA"

                      Stay away from future Truecrypt releases. This is clearly a warning from the developers.

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                      • #12
                        Satex
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 3501

                        Originally posted by lakai
                        Truecrypt was compromised by NSA so developers dropped the project. They were liked served with a NSL but managed to alert users via warrant canary.
                        Conjecture.

                        Originally posted by lakai
                        As on the website.
                        "Using TrueCrypt is not secure as it may contain unfixed security issues"
                        isolate the first letter of each word: (U)sing (T)rueCrypt (i)s (n)ot (s)ecure (a)s (i)t (m)ay (c)ontain (u)nfixed (s)ecurity (i)ssues

                        utinsaimcusi = uti nsa im cu si
                        That is latin for "if im with the use of the NSA"
                        Funny!

                        Originally posted by 1st Generation Gun Owner
                        Switch to another open source program. On Linux there's LUKS/cryptsetup for volume encryption. If you're really concerned about backdoors, you should only be running open source software.
                        Open source is a honeypot for the NSA as it's the best way to innocently introduce vulnerabilities.

                        Originally posted by skunkbad
                        If you use a super strong password, the chances of somebody brute forcing your volume successfully is practically zero.
                        Most modern security hacks aren't done using brute force, they are done using side channel attacks - think Heartbleed.

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