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  • NorCalAthlete
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2010
    • 1799

    What do I need for a NAS/HTPC setup?

    So here's the situation...the last place I lived in, my roommate had a SABnzbd + Sickbeard + XMBC + Raspberry pi type setup. He had a gaming rig upstairs that doubled as NAS, raspberry pi downstairs hooked up to the other TV for watching everything. It was a decent setup, but had some issues (slow, occasional stutters, etc). Awesome compared to cable, but I want to improve on it.

    I'd like to do something similar but better. I won't be playing any PC games, so I don't need as beefy a NAS setup. I just want to know what my options are for having a NAS in my bedroom scanning Usenet for movies, TV shows, etc., and something in the living room to stream everything to that TV.

    I haven't kept up on chipsets for a couple years, but I'd imagine the new quad cores are more than sufficient for 4k onboard video, let alone 1080p. TV in the living room currently is 120hz 1080p, but it'd be nice to have something that can support 4k for future upgrades. I want the smallest, quietest build possible for the NAS, but also want a minimum 1-2 TB of storage. I want it to run smoothly and quickly with no stuttering, even if I decide to watch something in the bedroom while my roommate watches something else in the living room. So not sure how much RAM it would need, but I'd be fine with 16gb. This may be going inside an entertainment center, so it will need to run cool as well - ventilation in the enclosed space will be minimal - plus the sun tends to shine through the windows in the evenings directly onto the cabinet (from the side, doesn't reflect off the screen fortunately).

    So, in short here's what I think I'll need:
    • Mini-ITX mobo with built in HDMI, optical outputs, built in ethernet, built in wifi (apartment is hardwired + wifi enabled, I like redundancy, and unfortunately only one hardwire is actually run per room so if I decide I need to move the computer I'll need wifi).
    • Intel i3 or i5 (i7 = overkill for sure, not sure if i5 would be overkill for what I need)
    • 8 or 16gb of RAM (16 overkill? Dunno. I think it'd be a good amount for both padding current needs + futureproofing build)
    • Case
    • Pico PSU, or whatever comes with a case. Shouldn't need much.


    I figure I should be able to build this for <$300-$400. Not going to be overclocking and want to keep this pretty basic but efficient.

    As for the living room, I'm told there are better/easier options than a Raspberry Pi and a Pi would be a waste for this as it's capable of so much more than just streaming movies and TV shows to a TV in another room off a NAS. Wasn't told what those options were however, and $35 is pretty cheap. Again, whatever I get will need to have HDMI, ethernet, and maybe wireless, and I want it to be fast enough to stream with no stuttering or hiccups at 1080p minimum.

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  • #2
    the86d
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2011
    • 9587

    Make sure that even if it has PCI-Ecpress x16 slots that the board will support using an additional video card. Mine does not, even with the slots available (crap-bios, I assume). I have only had this issue once, but I don't want to suffer it again.

    My current work board has built-in HDMI that does not support the monitors going into suspend (low-power/standby/whatever), and the back light on the monitors stays on indefinably, and in doing some research that seems to be a norm... apparently, I have to swap to DVI or VGA to accomplish suspend.

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    • #3
      NorCalAthlete
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2010
      • 1799

      Well, reason I want HDMI is because it will likely be hooked up to either a 32" or 46" LG LED TV, rather than a monitor. I just have my laptop and TV at the moment so didn't want to buy another monitor if I didn't have to. Hoping to use onboard video rather than buying a separate GPU to keep costs (and size/cooling) down as well.
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      • #4
        the86d
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2011
        • 9587

        The drawback is you are stuck with the on-board if you can't upgrade (like mine).

        Get a cheapie video card with HDMI... upgrade when you need to.

        Generally I have no problem with on-board anything, and they tend to last, but these two boards piss me off...

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        • #5
          truthseeker
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 1546

          WOW!

          I know you can build a NAS/HTPC, but I have better things to do with my time.

          I just purchased a Asustor AS-608-T NAS after doing some research.

          What is cool about it, is it has a Atom 2.13 dual core processor 1GB RAM (I paid $20 to upgrade to 3GB) and it has a bunch of apps that you can download and use.

          It also has dual NIC's and an HDMI port that I have going to my TV.

          I watch all my ripped movies and pictures from my computer on my big screen.

          They have a remote that you can download from the App store and use your cell phone to control it.

          Best money ($600) I have spent in a while!

          Not everyone needs 8 bays for hard drives, but I am a Computer Engineer and I have huge data sets that I use for work.
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          • #6
            NorCalAthlete
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 1799

            $600 is more than I'd like to spend for this setup if I can build it cheaper. Tinkering and building stuff like this is a hobby for me. Certain things I'll pay someone else to do all the hard work for, other things I like to figure out how to do myself.

            I also definitely don't need 8 bays for hard drives. This computer is going to be strictly for media - movies and TV shows and maybe some music, since the living room has a nice surround sound to go with the TV. Either way, 1-2TB should still fit in a single drive, and anything beyond that can easily go on a USB external. I both want and need to save space with this as I'm living in an apartment and tend to move a lot - it's been as often as 3-4x in one year in the last 4 years.
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            • #7
              BeerMan909
              Junior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 19

              I have a g box 2 midnight by matricom and love it. It has xbmc built in. Hdmi 4 usb ports WiFi digital audio out. It has a dual core processor 2 gb of ram and best of all its $99 on amazon.

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              • #8
                billofrights
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Oct 2012
                • 2343

                Originally posted by NorCalAthlete
                So here's the situation...the last place I lived in, my roommate had a SABnzbd + Sickbeard + XMBC + Raspberry pi type setup. He had a gaming rig upstairs that doubled as NAS, raspberry pi downstairs hooked up to the other TV for watching everything. It was a decent setup, but had some issues (slow, occasional stutters, etc). Awesome compared to cable, but I want to improve on it.

                I'd like to do something similar but better. I won't be playing any PC games, so I don't need as beefy a NAS setup. I just want to know what my options are for having a NAS in my bedroom scanning Usenet for movies, TV shows, etc., and something in the living room to stream everything to that TV.

                I haven't kept up on chipsets for a couple years, but I'd imagine the new quad cores are more than sufficient for 4k onboard video, let alone 1080p. TV in the living room currently is 120hz 1080p, but it'd be nice to have something that can support 4k for future upgrades. I want the smallest, quietest build possible for the NAS, but also want a minimum 1-2 TB of storage. I want it to run smoothly and quickly with no stuttering, even if I decide to watch something in the bedroom while my roommate watches something else in the living room. So not sure how much RAM it would need, but I'd be fine with 16gb. This may be going inside an entertainment center, so it will need to run cool as well - ventilation in the enclosed space will be minimal - plus the sun tends to shine through the windows in the evenings directly onto the cabinet (from the side, doesn't reflect off the screen fortunately).

                So, in short here's what I think I'll need:
                • Mini-ITX mobo with built in HDMI, optical outputs, built in ethernet, built in wifi (apartment is hardwired + wifi enabled, I like redundancy, and unfortunately only one hardwire is actually run per room so if I decide I need to move the computer I'll need wifi).
                • Intel i3 or i5 (i7 = overkill for sure, not sure if i5 would be overkill for what I need)
                • 8 or 16gb of RAM (16 overkill? Dunno. I think it'd be a good amount for both padding current needs + futureproofing build)
                • Case
                • Pico PSU, or whatever comes with a case. Shouldn't need much.


                I figure I should be able to build this for <$300-$400. Not going to be overclocking and want to keep this pretty basic but efficient.

                As for the living room, I'm told there are better/easier options than a Raspberry Pi and a Pi would be a waste for this as it's capable of so much more than just streaming movies and TV shows to a TV in another room off a NAS. Wasn't told what those options were however, and $35 is pretty cheap. Again, whatever I get will need to have HDMI, ethernet, and maybe wireless, and I want it to be fast enough to stream with no stuttering or hiccups at 1080p minimum.

                What say you denizens of Calguns?
                Of course you mean, scanning for movies you legally own to have a backup copy, I assume?

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                • #9
                  NorCalAthlete
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 1799

                  Of course. I have a massive collection of DVDs that's become entirely too cumbersome and annoying to constantly move. Right now it's split between 3 different locations and I just have my favorites with me. It'd be nice to have it all on one hard drive. Even taking all the discs out of cases and putting them into binders means I have several 200-disc binders full to move around and sort through. It's much easier to simply scroll through an automatically sorted digital list...
                  Your views on any given subject are the sum of the media that you take in, scaled to the weight of the credibility of the source that provides it, seen through a lens of your own values, goals, and achievements.

                  You Are All Ambassadors, Whether You Like It Or Not

                  Pain is the hardest lesson to forget; Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity.

                  Bureaucracy is the epoxy that lubricates the gears of progress.

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