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  • #16
    penguinofsleep
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2070

    Originally posted by Sentenza
    As everyone noted, the wrenching part is not difficult, plenty of guides and videos on the internet. The hardest part about building a PC is picking out your parts for what you want to do with your rig. I always go by the Ars system guide, and interestingly enough, it was updated recently:

    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2013/...november-2013/
    skimmed through this briefly and its a pretty good layman's guide. i'd change a very few things here and there, but other than that, it's good.

    hard part of building a pc isn't putting it together, it's picking the right components that will interface well with each other where one component is not a major bottle neck for w/e you are doing. although if money is of no matter, than the bottle neck won't be a big deal either since you can just upgrade later.

    the best parallel is like putting together an AR, assuming you already have the tools and all the parts are already in spec, i.e. no fabrication or refitting of parts needed. it's not particularly hard to do and everything will eventually fit together if you fit stuff where it belongs and it will work provided you don't do anything REALLY out there, but there are "better" and "right" ways to do it vs just joe blow randomly trying to make stuff fit knowing it will eventually go together. to relate this to PC's, i've seen the following:
    1. Non CS, CE, or EE friend builds computer w/o following any guides. It works, but it isn't optimized in many aspects. While it runs, it's easy for someone who is trained to say the same money could have been spent on this or that instead and your comp will work better/faster. Easy enough to fix with a new part or some configuration in the computer settings though. likewise in an AR, building an AR for long range shooting isn't just buying a bull barrel and big scope, although those things will certainly help.
    2. CS, CE, or EE friend builds computer. Optimized, refined, runs well, and may even be customized in some ways to suit their known preferences. knows exactly why everything works the way it does and how everything plays together.
    3. Non CS, CE, or EE friend builds computer but with a good guide. Just as optimized, refined, and runs as well as the one built in scenario 2, but they may not understand all of the exact science behind why things go together the way they do and work the way they do so when it comes time to say upgrade or do something, they may not be able to 100% optimize everything again (but then they could just consult another guide).

    at the end of the day though, 1,2, or 3, their computers all work, and likely well enough for them to get the job done otherwise they wouldn't use it. likewise, most gun owners i have seen and met fall into 1 & 3, but i would still say their gun/setup works well enough for them just b/c the modern firearms manufacturing industry has advanced enough and has already taken care of most of the details that the people who fall into 2 would know how to deal with.
    Last edited by penguinofsleep; 12-06-2013, 8:52 PM.

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    • #17
      kev20914
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2012
      • 97

      check out Linustechtips or techsyndicate(sp?) on youtube.. they are always uploading build guides.. a load of info..have fun and build on... if you do build one make sure you post some pics in here of the complete
      build.

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      • #18
        Blackrain7557
        Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 108

        i used www.hardware-revolution.com to build my first gaming PC, still running strong 2 years later. They update fairly often and the builds are designed so that you can pick parts and ensure that everything works together.

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        • #19
          Quiet
          retired Goon
          • Mar 2007
          • 30242

          Check out Cyberpower PC.

          They are in SoCal, so if you are in SoCal, you can save money by picking it up instead of having it shipped.
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          "If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).

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          • #20
            blazeaglory
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2011
            • 6370

            For some reason Ive been wanting to put together a mini ATX gaming rig. This one is capable of internal water cooling.


            A note to the NSA or anyone gathering information on me, this disclaimer is for you..."Everything I type on this website Is purely fictional and for entertainment purposes only. None of it is true."

            Also, sometimes I type in CAPS to emphasize a POINT. Please dont interpret that as YELLING. Sorry if I HURT any fuzzy little bunny's FEELINGS out there.

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            • #21
              V8toytruck
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 2943

              Start here



              My Antec 1200 has too much room to give up but the Win D Frame case is gorgeous.

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              • #22
                SunsetIE
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 2108

                Newegg has killer deals usually.

                I have this computer in a phantom 410 tower...much nicer looking than what they did to that phantom pony tower....


                Processor : Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz 64 bit Quad Core
                Memory : 8GB DDR3 1333
                Hard Drive :1TB SATA III
                Optical Drive :24X DL DVD+/-RW Drive
                Graphics :AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB
                Ethernet :Gigabit Ethernet
                Power Supply :400W
                Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

                i love the tower design, the wire loom comes pre installed and routed, huge openings for 140 or 200mm fans, raised lower section for under case cooling, built in fan speed controller, easy remove right facing hard drive cage.

                Been running a laptop for the last 4 years at max 15 fps for games, this tower runs 100 fps without breaking a sweat


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                • #23
                  tANNERRRR
                  Member
                  • Jun 2013
                  • 122

                  Don't buy any name brand stuff like Alienware, etc. You're paying for the name. Use Newegg or Tiger Direct and piece together your computer. It is very easy. People think it is some daunting task, but the websites basically list what the items are compatible with. The barebone kits are a decent start. Nothing too great normally, but you can put some good stuff in there.

                  I'm on my 2nd PC build currently, and can tell you that AMD Processors are much cheaper and run about the same as Intel. Do some research and check out spec sheets on items that were tested against each other. For example, I chose my current AMD Quad Core CPU because it cost me $60 less than the Intel equivalent and they were scored virtually exactly the same.

                  Don't rush into building. Plan things out, have a budget, and do alot of research

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                  • #24
                    Scratch705
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • May 2009
                    • 12537



                    this build that they did will do what you want and some parts can be changed to make it cheaper than theirs (~$900 for theirs)

                    pretty much the 2 things you need for gaming:
                    CPU
                    Video Card

                    and a somewhat important hard drive (don't get a slow one, at least 7200rpm)
                    Last edited by Scratch705; 12-08-2013, 11:29 PM.
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                    • #25
                      V8toytruck
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 2943

                      A SSD is very important in gaming. It gives me first dibs on the tanks/choppers/AA on BF4 on 1st spawn.

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                      • #26
                        blazeaglory
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2011
                        • 6370

                        Originally posted by SunsetIE
                        Newegg has killer deals usually.

                        I have this computer in a phantom 410 tower...much nicer looking than what they did to that phantom pony tower....


                        Processor : Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz 64 bit Quad Core
                        Memory : 8GB DDR3 1333
                        Hard Drive :1TB SATA III
                        Optical Drive :24X DL DVD+/-RW Drive
                        Graphics :AMD Radeon HD 7770 1GB
                        Ethernet :Gigabit Ethernet
                        Power Supply :400W
                        Operating System : Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit

                        i love the tower design, the wire loom comes pre installed and routed, huge openings for 140 or 200mm fans, raised lower section for under case cooling, built in fan speed controller, easy remove right facing hard drive cage.

                        Been running a laptop for the last 4 years at max 15 fps for games, this tower runs 100 fps without breaking a sweat



                        Nice setup but I would double the watts of the PSU.
                        A note to the NSA or anyone gathering information on me, this disclaimer is for you..."Everything I type on this website Is purely fictional and for entertainment purposes only. None of it is true."

                        Also, sometimes I type in CAPS to emphasize a POINT. Please dont interpret that as YELLING. Sorry if I HURT any fuzzy little bunny's FEELINGS out there.

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                        • #27
                          blazeaglory
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2011
                          • 6370

                          Damn Mossy what are you going to do? Are you close to Westminster OC?
                          A note to the NSA or anyone gathering information on me, this disclaimer is for you..."Everything I type on this website Is purely fictional and for entertainment purposes only. None of it is true."

                          Also, sometimes I type in CAPS to emphasize a POINT. Please dont interpret that as YELLING. Sorry if I HURT any fuzzy little bunny's FEELINGS out there.

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                          • #28
                            Alpha Male
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 948

                            @mossy

                            My friend's company here in San Diego has been building gaming rigs for quite sometime. They can ship a build to you as well. Let me know if you are interested. Some of the reasons people shop with them is there customer service, pricing, and BENCH MARKING. They will have the machine cater to the game.

                            I went with them because I wanted to make a gaming rig that will support the games for at least 3 years on decent settings before having to build a new one.

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                            • #29
                              NytWolf
                              Veteran Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 3935

                              Originally posted by Wallabing
                              Building a PC is incredibly easy. All you do is push things into place, and screw things in with a screwdriver.

                              Very little you can do to mess up.
                              Of course it's easy. Any monkey can put together a PC. The problem with the monkey is when things go wrong. When things don't work as expected, can the monkey figure what went wrong and where?

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                              • #30
                                blazeaglory
                                Calguns Addict
                                • May 2011
                                • 6370

                                Originally posted by NytWolf
                                Of course it's easy. Any monkey can put together a PC. The problem with the monkey is when things go wrong. When things don't work as expected, can the monkey figure what went wrong and where?
                                That is true. Thats why I put the basics together first and go from there. But then again, I have 20+ years of basic A+ so Its easy for me.

                                For a first timer, I would build with someone who knew what they were doing or at least print out a how to before hand. The OP does have a laptop, so if anything goes wrong, were always here to help
                                A note to the NSA or anyone gathering information on me, this disclaimer is for you..."Everything I type on this website Is purely fictional and for entertainment purposes only. None of it is true."

                                Also, sometimes I type in CAPS to emphasize a POINT. Please dont interpret that as YELLING. Sorry if I HURT any fuzzy little bunny's FEELINGS out there.

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