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  • drkphibr
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2460

    Ancient IBM PS/2 boot problem

    For all you PC history buffs, here's what's driving me crazy:

    Have an IBM PS/2 model 55sx that I'm trying to get working.

    Had the 161 & 163 boot errors. Replaced the Dallas IC clock and the adjusted the date/time.

    Installed various versions of IBM/MS DOS after either a low level format (hours) using the reference diskette for the ESDI drive or FDISK to blow away the partition.

    EVERY time the same thing happens. DOS installs "normal" and on reboot, the PC goes into IBM Basic v1.10 and won't launch DOS. Entering "system" to exit BASIC only produces a "syntax error". So, I'm "stuck" in BASIC.

    Anyone have a clue to reviving this ancient PC?
  • #2
    bigbearbear
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2011
    • 5378

    How are you booting up that PC? Those old IBM machines have BASIC built into their BIOS/ROM, if it is unable to boot an OS (eg. DOS), it'll go into BASIC environment instead. And no, you cannot "exit" to a regular OS from the BASIC environment.

    Are you trying to boot from the floppy drive? Chances are it might be dead.

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    • #3
      sd_shooter
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2008
      • 13764

      Time for a new computer.

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      • #4
        drkphibr
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2010
        • 2460

        Originally posted by bigbearbear
        How are you booting up that PC? Those old IBM machines have BASIC built into their BIOS/ROM, if it is unable to boot an OS (eg. DOS), it'll go into BASIC environment instead. And no, you cannot "exit" to a regular OS from the BASIC environment.

        Are you trying to boot from the floppy drive? Chances are it might be dead.
        Found the issue/problem. Turns out that replacing the battery/clock IC gets rid of the 161/163 errors (after setting the date via the reference diskette), the new chip wreaks a bit of havoc on the CMOS. It needed to be cleared and then everything reset via automatic configuration under the reference diskette.

        Had to boot to a DOS diskette and run the following in DEBUG:

        o 70 13
        0 71 00

        That cleared it up and it booted straight into DOS. Spending more time on the net searching for clues ("BASIC" is WAY too common of a term and trying to narrow things down was...fun). The ancient PC lives once again....

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        • #5
          Low Light
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 788

          How about some screen shots for the (overly) nostalgic?

          (I'm guessing you'd have to use a smartphone? LOL)
          Originally posted by Enfield47
          I'm rooting for the allied team, I think we won last time but I can't remember. I just remember it was a lot of fun.
          I know I'm gonna get got, but I'm going to get mine more than I get got though.
          -Marshawn Lynch

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          • #6
            drkphibr
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2460

            Originally posted by Low Light
            How about some screen shots for the (overly) nostalgic?

            (I'm guessing you'd have to use a smartphone? LOL)
            Since you asked...

            So after getting things running again, I started playing with some very old OSes like:

            IBM DOS 5.0 (running the visually unimpressive DOSshell)
            Windows 286
            Windows 3.0
            Windows 3.1
            OS/2 1.3

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            • #7
              M1NM
              Calguns Addict
              • Oct 2011
              • 7966

              Now hook up your 1200 baud modem and you can spend literally hours on the net.

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              • #8
                drkphibr
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2010
                • 2460

                Originally posted by M1NM
                Now hook up your 1200 baud modem and you can spend literally hours on the net.
                I'm actually looking for old MicroChannel cards now...a modem...network adapter..."better" graphics...SCSI adapter (to install NT 3.5) and anything else before they disappear forever.

                For gear that is 25+ years old, this stuff was made like tanks...not the flimsy stuff of today.

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                • #9
                  Low Light
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2012
                  • 788

                  Don't forget the dot matrix printer.
                  Originally posted by Enfield47
                  I'm rooting for the allied team, I think we won last time but I can't remember. I just remember it was a lot of fun.
                  I know I'm gonna get got, but I'm going to get mine more than I get got though.
                  -Marshawn Lynch

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                  • #10
                    gorn5150
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 1453

                    Wow, reading this makes me want to break out my unopened windows 1 disks and play.

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                    • #11
                      drkphibr
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2010
                      • 2460

                      Originally posted by Low Light
                      Don't forget the dot matrix printer.
                      I'm on the lookout for the IBM ProPrinter 24 as a matter of fact. I just dusted off my original (bought it in 1989) HP LaserJet IIP.

                      Paid $999 for the unit (plus tax) and then dropped another $199 for the optional, lower cassette paper tray.

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                      • #12
                        drkphibr
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 2460

                        Originally posted by gorn5150
                        Wow, reading this makes me want to break out my unopened windows 1 disks and play.
                        I've got a copy some place, but after ripping apart the house, I still can't find them. Bummed! I did find my Windows for Workgroups disks though...and WordPerfect 5.1 too ;-)

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                        • #13
                          yellowsulphur
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1633

                          Good Old DOS 3.1 and gwbasic kept me busy as a kid.

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                          • #14
                            mrkubota
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 1372

                            .... this stuff is still too modern!
                            I'll have to drag out the old Morrow MD-2 CP/M machine....
                            64K and dual hi-density 5.25" floppy drives. 1200 baud modem made it the scourge of the usenet alt.rec.guns forum in the '80s

                            WordStar forever!



                            ... found this old pic of me playing with the 'new' MD-3' transportable CP/M machine in 1984. You can kind of see the 1200baud modem between the MD-2 and the MD-3 too. They both ran CP/M 2.2 from floppy in 64K of ram with 4MHZ Z80 processors. I was working as a COE Installer for GTE then and writing applications to make installing/testing early electronic telecom switching systems easier. (#1EAX, #2EAX, and #5EAX systems) . First in BASIC and with the MD-3, the first version of Borland's Turbo PASCAL for CP/M. (also my first introduction to a compiled structured language)

                            Last edited by mrkubota; 08-02-2013, 10:52 PM.

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                            • #15
                              klewan
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 3031

                              I looked up your stuff, Reagan was still president when it came out....I had Windows 3.11 on a work laptop in '95; $6,000 IBM Thinkpad. 75MGZ on a 486.

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