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  • Californio
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    • Dec 2006
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    writing zero's to a windows C: drive

    Looking for a bootable that will write zero's (multiple passes). Need to "init" several windows machines.
    "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez
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    superbarnie
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    • Dec 2012
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    • #3
      Californio
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      • Dec 2006
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      Thank You
      "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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      • #4
        billofrights
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        • Oct 2012
        • 2343

        I use Spinrite at work, but in the past the Ultimate Boot CD has worked well, it's free and has several disk-wiping utilities.

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          JDay
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          • Nov 2008
          • 19393



          Or you can just encrypt the drive from the start and not have to worry about it.
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          • #6
            the86d
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2011
            • 9587

            Originally posted by Californio
            Looking for a bootable that will write zero's (multiple passes). Need to "init" several windows machines.
            Originally posted by superbarnie
            Multiple pass wipes are useless, a complete waste of your valuable time, and just as effective as a drive zeroing.
            NO data has EVER been recovered that has been overwritten (aside from maybe bad sectors marked by smart, but if anyone knows a way to zero bad sectors marked by smart, I would live to read how).

            I just boot to Slackware's first CD, or DVD, and some-seconds later (Slackware has one of the fastest boots to a cli of most distros, and no GUI boot/lag time for zeroing drives) it's done booting and do a:
            dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda
            for the 1st drive detected...

            dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
            for the second...

            If you have to do a bunch, just plug them all into a machinga and do a bunch at the same time:
            dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda &
            dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb &
            dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdc &
            dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdd &
            clear

            THEN you get a clean screen that only shows status of when they are done, and once you get all 4 you are done with all of them.

            If you have multiple drives plugged in of different sizes and unsure which one is which:
            fdisk -l

            If you have multiple drives plugged in, makes sure you know which is which if you need to keep any data, as Windows has been known to swap drive letters if you plugged drives in later. Slackware is usually pretty good at making the 1st drive detected the lowest letter (i.e. /dev/sda). When in doubt, just unplug any drives you wish to keep data on before attempting.
            Last edited by the86d; 05-09-2013, 4:49 AM.

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              bigbearbear
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              • Jun 2011
              • 5378

              We use a drive shredding service when hardware comes back to us due to customer upgrading to newer products. These guys are not bad:


              $7.50 per drive, not bad at all I think.

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              • #8
                sholling
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                • Sep 2007
                • 10360

                Originally posted by the86d
                Multiple pass wipes are useless, a complete waste of your valuable time, and just as effective as a drive zeroing.
                NO data has EVER been recovered that has been overwritten (aside from maybe bad sectors marked by smart, but if anyone knows a way to zero bad sectors marked by smart, I would live to read how).
                So I take it you're an NSA spook since you just know for sure that no data has EVER been recovered.
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                  JDay
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19393

                  Originally posted by sholling
                  So I take it you're an NSA spook since you just know for sure that no data has EVER been recovered.
                  There's been plenty of research on this topic. A simple Google search will yield the results.

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                  The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                    sholling
                    I need a LIFE!!
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                    • Sep 2007
                    • 10360

                    Originally posted by JDay
                    There's been plenty of research on this topic. A simple Google search will yield the results.
                    If you say so. Data may not be easily recoverable but I'll stick with 3 pass until DOD blesses off one-pass. Now if you'd said that one-pass is probably good enough for the average joe you'd have made sense, but such definitive statements as no data has ever been recovered sound silly on their face. I would never deal with a bank or financial services company that did not use at least 3 passes or better yet physically destroy the platters.
                    Last edited by sholling; 05-09-2013, 9:36 AM.
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                    • #11
                      JDay
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19393

                      Originally posted by sholling
                      If you say so. Data may not be easily recoverable but I'll stick with 3 pass until DOD blesses off one-pass. Now if you'd said that one-pass is probably good enough for the average joe you'd have made sense, but such definitive statements as no data has ever been recovered sound silly on their face. I would never deal with a bank or financial services company that did not use at least 3 passes or better yet physically destroy the platters.
                      Ask any data recovery firm and they will tell you they cannot recover data that has been overwritten. The DoD standard is outdated, it was written back when it was possible to recover data that had been overwritten. Hard drives have changed quite a bit over the years.

                      EDIT: And if you're going by DoD standards you better shred the drives and incinerate them after you're done with your multiple pass wipe.

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                      Last edited by JDay; 05-09-2013, 1:33 PM.
                      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                      • #12
                        Deadbolt
                        CGSSA Associate
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 6552

                        awwww man this thread really makes me happy i got out of hardware
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                        • #13
                          olhunter
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3707

                          Originally posted by JDay
                          Ask any data recovery firm and they will tell you they cannot recover data that has been overwritten. The DoD standard is outdated, it was written back when it was possible to recover data that had been overwritten. Hard drives have changed quite a bit over the years.
                          We do that and he's right. Never going to recover it. Not even with a electron microscope. The narrowing of the tracks and the precision eliminated the 'wobble' that allowed us to do that in the past. One pass and it's gone.

                          Maybe on a 520MB drive from 1994, but not many of those left.
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