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  • #16
    Meety Peety
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 3216

    Lol you can get a DNA/One/equivalent for the same price as a iPhone 5.. by the time 5s is out, it'll probably be cheaper. Is there even really any comparison? I'm pretty sure the DNA has already crapped all over the iPhone 6 concept phone.. so it's not like the 5s is going to magically beat it. If you just want to stick with an apple product.. I'd say get the Iphone 5 and not wait.. you really won't get anything worth waiting for. The only reason I could see to wait would be that you'll probably save 50 bucks on the iPhone 5 once the 5S launches.

    Why people still dump money hand over first into Apple's old technology is a mystery to me. Kinda like people who spend an extra $200 on a phone with 64g internal memory and then dump it all into Cloud.
    "Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid." - Albert Einstein

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    • #17
      Iknownot
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 2174

      Originally posted by parksmart
      Gosh darn, your screenname is amazingly accurate. The 5 is an LTE-capable phone. The 4S is not. I've run speed tests with my 5 in certain LTE wired areas here in the Bay Area, and seen 50mb down and 30mb up. No 4S could approach that even under optimal coverage conditions.
      Optimal coverage conditions. Look, I don't want to get into a fight about this.

      If you feel you need the best and the baddest, by all means, go out and get a 5. I have no real issue with that, other than it's not going to be too much longer before we see what the 5s (or 6) looks like.

      All I'm saying, is that from a features stand point, there is nothing the 5 is doing, that the 4s is not doing. I'm talking about the difference in features like when Siri came out and older phones, even though they got the OS update, didn't also get Siri capability.

      Or feature differences in camera quality between, for example. the 3gs and the 4.

      I have not personally seen, in every day usage, the 5 being remarkably faster than the 4s. This is side to side usage doing the same things.

      Not enough for me to feel bad I'm still on the 4s when I'm seeing everyone using the 5.

      To me, the most marked difference is the screen size. I have no issue passing on that until I see what the next iPhone looks like.

      (And believe me, I know what using a slow iphone is like when everyone else around you is upgrading as I was on a 3g (not even 3gs) while everyone had transitioned to the 4 and I went from a 3gs to the 4s, finally. Those were huge, noticeable differences, in speed).
      Last edited by Iknownot; 05-02-2013, 11:22 AM.

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      • #18
        parksmart
        Tactical Mall Ninja
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Dec 2011
        • 808

        Originally posted by Iknownot
        Optimal coverage conditions. Look, I don't want to get into a fight about this.

        If you feel you need the best and the baddest, by all means, go out and get a 5. I have no real issue with that, other than it's not going to be too much longer before we see what the 5s (or 6) looks like.

        All I'm saying, is that from a features stand point, there is nothing the 5 is doing, that the 4s is not doing. I'm talking about the difference in features like when Siri came out and older phones, even though they got the OS update, didn't also get Siri capability.

        Or feature differences in camera quality between, for example. the 3gs and the 4.

        I have not personally seen, in every day usage, the 5 being remarkably faster than the 4s. This is side to side usage doing the same things.

        Not enough for me to feel bad I'm still on the 4s when I'm seeing everyone using the 5.

        To me, the most marked difference is the screen size. I have no issue passing on that until I see what the next iPhone looks like.

        (And believe me, I know what using a slow iphone is like when everyone else around you is upgrading as I was on a 3g (not even 3gs) while everyone had transitioned to the 4 and I went from a 3gs to the 4s, finally. Those were huge, noticeable differences, in speed).
        If you're going to render your opinion based upon a limited sample size (since you don't carry around a 5), at least make accurate statements. LTE capability is a significant enhancement of the 5 over the 4S, and you're the only person who has attempted to gloss over this. When it comes to download and upload speeds, noticeably faster trumps slower every time. And that gap will only become more noticeable as carriers pour new investment into LTE and none into the older HSPA+ that the 4S maxes out at.

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        • #19
          Iknownot
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 2174

          I am talking every day usage for most people, and I'm not glossing over anything.

          If you travel all the time and are on the cell network for your internet usage, and you use your phone A LOT for internet usage, then by all means, get the 5.

          the 85% of everyone else probably won't be noticing the difference that much, myself included.

          That's all I'm saying. I'm sure you disagree with me though. We just have two different viewpoints. All I'm saying is that I'd personally wait to see what the 5s or 6 looks like before deciding to commit to a 5, because the 4s is good enough (especially if not getting locked into a contract so close to the new iphone release).

          Obviously, you feel the 4s is lacking. To each his own.
          Last edited by Iknownot; 05-03-2013, 1:50 PM.

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          • #20
            parksmart
            Tactical Mall Ninja
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Dec 2011
            • 808

            Originally posted by Iknownot
            I am talking every day usage for most people, and I'm not glossing over anything.

            If you travel all the time and are on the cell network for your internet usage, and you use your phone A LOT for internet usage, then by all means, get the 5.

            the 85% of everyone else probably won't be noticing the difference that much, myself included.

            That's all I'm saying. I'm sure you disagree with me though. We just have two different viewpoints. All I'm saying is that I'd personally wait to see what the 5s or 6 looks like before deciding to commit to a 5, because the 4s is good enough (especially if not getting locked into a contract so close to the new iphone release).

            Obviously, you feel the 4s is lacking. To each his own.
            Where did I EVER say the 4s is lacking? Kindly point that out for me, as I read nothing in my responses where I state the 4S pales in comparison to the 5.

            I simply pointed out that you made a patently incorrect statement of:

            Originally posted by Iknownot
            There is no feature the 5 has that the 4s doesn't have, other than the screen size difference.
            If failing to mention the LTE capability of the 5 is not glossing over as you claim, then we'll have to chalk that up as wholesale ignorance on your part. It's akin to saying that any Porsche 911 is the same as a 911 Turbo.

            I'd also recommend that you either back up your statement of:

            Originally posted by Iknownot
            the 85% of everyone else probably won't be noticing the difference that much, myself included.
            with some proof of a valid study or sample that confirms that over 5 out of 6 people who used a 4S and 5 side by side for a decent period of time noticed no difference in speed between the two devices, or you're just demonstrating again that you like to type stuff on the internet that is simply your misguided opinion trying to masquerade as fact.

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            • #21
              tquizzle
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 1605

              I got the iPhone 5 and I love it. I'm coming from android and its just so well thought out and I love it all around. I don't care if the 5s will be better software wise because this will get updated anyway and the hardware should be the same. Either way I'm happy.

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              • #22
                Joe
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 5730

                Originally posted by parksmart
                Where did I EVER say the 4s is lacking? Kindly point that out for me, as I read nothing in my responses where I state the 4S pales in comparison to the 5.

                I simply pointed out that you made a patently incorrect statement of:



                If failing to mention the LTE capability of the 5 is not glossing over as you claim, then we'll have to chalk that up as wholesale ignorance on your part. It's akin to saying that any Porsche 911 is the same as a 911 Turbo.

                I'd also recommend that you either back up your statement of:



                with some proof of a valid study or sample that confirms that over 5 out of 6 people who used a 4S and 5 side by side for a decent period of time noticed no difference in speed between the two devices, or you're just demonstrating again that you like to type stuff on the internet that is simply your misguided opinion trying to masquerade as fact.
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                • #23
                  jonzer77
                  • Jul 2010
                  • 8525

                  Originally posted by Iknownot
                  I am talking every day usage for most people, and I'm not glossing over anything.

                  If you travel all the time and are on the cell network for your internet usage, and you use your phone A LOT for internet usage, then by all means, get the 5.

                  the 85% of everyone else probably won't be noticing the difference that much, myself included.

                  That's all I'm saying. I'm sure you disagree with me though. We just have two different viewpoints. All I'm saying is that I'd personally wait to see what the 5s or 6 looks like before deciding to commit to a 5, because the 4s is good enough (especially if not getting locked into a contract so close to the new iphone release).

                  Obviously, you feel the 4s is lacking. To each his own.
                  I had the 4 and went to the 5 and it was a huge difference. Not that the 4 was a bad phone, it's just so much nicer having the larger screen and that alone is worth the upgrade. I can't really see what the 6 would have that would be so much better then the 5 because the 5 does everything I need it to.
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                  • #24
                    Diabolus
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 4721

                    I have the 5 and I dislike Siri, I don't think its all that useful.

                    Does anyone know how I can always use the iPhone app for directions? When I click addresses on some websites, it takes me to Google - I hate that.

                    Like everything else...

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                    • #25
                      Foebia
                      Banned
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 1347

                      Wait...

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                      • #26
                        boarder010
                        Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 103

                        Originally posted by Diabolus
                        I have the 5 and I dislike Siri, I don't think its all that useful.

                        Does anyone know how I can always use the iPhone app for directions? When I click addresses on some websites, it takes me to Google - I hate that.

                        Like everything else...
                        I think it's how the site links it, like it is a link to google maps. not like how an address on the iphone is made a link to the iPhone maps app. but agreed - annoying.

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                        • #27
                          boarder010
                          Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 103

                          oooh yeah, you're getting close to the next release, just wait it out.

                          if you can hold out another year - then wait longer! hah

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                          • #28
                            JDay
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19393

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                            • #29
                              Iknownot
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2007
                              • 2174

                              Relax park smart, the 5 is just a phone, and pretty much the same phone as the 4s, but with a larger screen.

                              Anyone who needs the latest, greatest iPhone should by all means go out and get it. I was merely trying to point out, that due to apple's release schedule, the actual latest and greatest iPhone may only be months away. And when you have to deal with contract lock in and upfront purchase prices, it may be wise to look at the older and less great (though perfectly viable) 4s. At least as a stopgap until the newest iPhone comes out.

                              To each his own, but I know I'm going to be happy I will at least be able to consider the 5s (or 6) at the end of this year because I am not locked in a contract at this point. That's not something someone buying a new 5 now will be able to say, unless they are willing to go fully out of pocket, and most people are not willing to spend that much on a smart phone.

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                              • #30
                                parksmart
                                Tactical Mall Ninja
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 808

                                Originally posted by Iknownot
                                Relax park smart, the 5 is just a phone, and pretty much the same phone as the 4s, but with a larger screen.

                                Anyone who needs the latest, greatest iPhone should by all means go out and get it. I was merely trying to point out, that due to apple's release schedule, the actual latest and greatest iPhone may only be months away. And when you have to deal with contract lock in and upfront purchase prices, it may be wise to look at the older and less great (though perfectly viable) 4s. At least as a stopgap until the newest iPhone comes out.

                                To each his own, but I know I'm going to be happy I will at least be able to consider the 5s (or 6) at the end of this year because I am not locked in a contract at this point. That's not something someone buying a new 5 now will be able to say, unless they are willing to go fully out of pocket, and most people are not willing to spend that much on a smart phone.
                                Wow, you're still trying to defend your wrong opinion here?

                                This guy does a pretty thorough job of pointing out the differences between the 5, 4S and 4:

                                The budget iPhone: rumormongers have obsessed out the possibility for years. Though Apple hasn't – and likely never will – manufacture a new iPhone just to tackle the economy market, the company has covered that segment nonetheless. The recipe is simple: continue selling previous years' iPhones in…

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