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  • halifax
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4440

    Correct Surveillance Camera

    I need to know what specifications to look for on a porch camera. I want to be able to have good facial recognition in a 20 - 30 foot range. The cheap camera that came with the DVR doesn't quite get there (420 TVL) and the high-resolution one (600 TVL) I bought seems geared more for the 100' range. It doesn't have sharp focus in the range I need. Camera should be bullet style for under-eave mounting, outdoor, color, low lux with IR LEDs. Specifically, what specifications should I be looking for?

    Thanks
    Jim


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    skuehl
    Member
    • Jan 2010
    • 432

    I used the Foscam 8906W wireless IP outdoor camera. I tried one for a month and it seemed to work great. I just order 3 of them through groupon to put together a home security monitoring system that will record a couple of days worth of video so it can be saved and looked at if necessary.

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    • #3
      stonith3901
      Member
      • Jul 2012
      • 175

      I have an Axis p5534. Its a HD camera 1280x960, POE+, full PTZ, and integrated management system. Granted it retails for 2k+, but i can pick up a license plate with cars a block away. It encodes usin h.264 and outputs .mkv files.

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      • #4
        halifax
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 4440

        Thanks guys. I guess I should have mentioned my system is not network (IP) type.
        Jim


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        • #5
          BSlacker
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2003
          • 923

          Look for a line of res of 600 but 400 is more common. For low light check the LUX rating. Anything greater than .01 LUX is poor. Sony makes a HAD technology camera with a LUX of .001. Will see with moon light. A little IR make like daylight.
          More or less second is features like Variable Iris control and pan tilt.
          Tamron makes some good lenses check the ones listed as IR compatible.

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          • #6
            halifax
            Veteran Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 4440

            Thanks guys. I'm going with this one. The 2.8-12mm Varifocal lens should allow me to get a sharp focus in the 20 - 30' range I'll need for the facial recognition. The Super HAD is a plus.
            Last edited by halifax; 05-14-2013, 2:11 PM.
            Jim


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            • #7
              ExtremeX
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2010
              • 7160

              If resolution is what you are after… you really have to step it up to IP cameras.

              Camera & lens quality is pretty important.

              I don’t know how much you are willing to spend, but stick to brand name cameras like Axis.

              Personally I really like the Mobotix cameras, but chances are its going to cost more than you want to spend, but nice software is included with the cameras.

              Discover German-made IP security camera systems - innovative, high-resolution surveillance cameras for professional IP video surveillance solutions.


              Take a look at some of the features and video sample… might impress you.

              ExtremeX

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              • #8
                halifax
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4440

                Originally posted by ExtremeX
                Discover German-made IP security camera systems - innovative, high-resolution surveillance cameras for professional IP video surveillance solutions.
                http://www.mobotix.com/eng_US/Products
                LOL, yep more than I can afford. Maybe when I need to replace what I've already got in-place. Right now I just want to get a good face shot.
                Jim


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                • #9
                  BSlacker
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 923

                  the high-resolution one (600 TVL) I bought seems geared more for the 100' range. It doesn't have sharp focus in the range I need.
                  Have you tried to back focus the camera and lense.

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                  • #10
                    halifax
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 4440

                    Originally posted by BSlacker
                    Have you tried to back focus the camera and lense.
                    With no external adjustments and woefully lacking manual (actually a single photocopied sheet ), I didn't even try.
                    Jim


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                    • #11
                      BSlacker
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 923

                      A camera lense combo that should produce 600 lines should show warts and all at porch distance. If the set up has separate lense and camera body with something like a C or CS mount then it can be back focused to correct the issue and produce very nice pictures. Here is a little info.

                      Instructions on how to adjust the back focus controls on your video camera.


                      Have fun its a hobby.

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                      • #12
                        halifax
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 4440

                        I wouldn't go so far as to call it a hobby. Not for me anyway. Thanks for the link.
                        Jim


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                        • #13
                          sdkevin
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 2248

                          Been down this lane before...

                          A simple hood or hat will render an expensive system useless.
                          After watching WTC Bldg #7 being razed, and considering it's main occupants..

                          I stumbled onto this note while checking advanced weapons..
                          "911 = false flag. WTC 7 was brought down by demolition. 47 floors came down in 6 1/2 seconds - not hit by a plane. Just one of hundreds of absurdities that occurred that day. Wake up".

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                          • #14
                            the86d
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                            • Jul 2011
                            • 9587

                            Originally posted by sdkevin
                            Been down this lane before...

                            A simple hood or hat will render an expensive system useless.
                            I know guys that used to just put hoods on and then steal expensive cameras....
                            Last edited by the86d; 05-22-2013, 11:15 AM.

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                            • #15
                              MaHoTex
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                              • Jul 2010
                              • 5002

                              That is what you have all cameras overlap so that if someone f's with one camera, they are caught on at least one other camera.
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