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  • Jeepers
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3415

    Unlocking smartphones without permission illegal after Friday

    did anyone see this ?

    what a bunch of BS once a phone is paid for or contract has expired, you still have to get "permission" to unlock your own phone ? i dont even do cell phones and it piss's me off the DMCA needs to go grrrrrrrrr ...

    A change to the Digital Millennium Copyright Act that makes it illegal for consumers to unlock their mobile devices without the permission of their carrier goes into effect Saturday.
    Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
    Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.
  • #2
    2shotjoe
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Feb 2011
    • 26474

    Doesn't affect rooting or jailbreaking.

    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
    Originally posted by Kestryll
    ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
    Originally posted by Libertarian777
    ...Don't pick either side....

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    • #3
      Jeepers
      Veteran Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 3415

      Originally posted by bloodhawke83
      Doesn't affect rooting or jailbreaking.

      Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
      it does if you "unlock" the carrier

      ETA Jailbreaking is legal for enhancement of s/w not unlocking the sim
      A common method for unlocking smartphones requires jailbreaking, for iPhones, or rooting on Android devices. This is a means of removing the manufacturer’s limitations on software to allow the end user more options in what they can run on their device. On Apple devices, this generally means sideloading third-party apps not available in the App Store (something already possible with Android devices), or apps that require more access to the phone’s hardware systems. While potentially warranty-voiding, jailbreaking is a completely legal exemption under the DMCA, thanks in no small part to the efforts of the nonprofit advocacy group Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF). (We interviewed EFF’s Andrew Huang just a year ago about this very precept).
      http://ifixit.org/4114/say-goodbye-to-legal-unlocking/
      Last edited by Jeepers; 01-26-2013, 1:37 AM.
      Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
      Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.

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      • #4
        DJ Skillz
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 1255

        I paid good money for my smart phone. I own my smart phone. I'll do with it what I damn well please.

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        • #5
          NoHeavyHitter
          Banned
          • Jul 2011
          • 2876

          I do not own or carry a GPS beacon..

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          • #6
            Jeepers
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 3415

            Originally posted by DJ Skillz
            I paid good money for my smart phone. I own my smart phone. I'll do with it what I damn well please.
            only if you ask nicely, otherwise you will be breaking the law (DMCA) after today ....

            i once was a "hardware hacker" and this piss's me off i agree i own what i pay for and should be able to do with it what i want .....
            Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
            Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.

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            • #7
              2shotjoe
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2011
              • 26474

              Originally posted by Jeepers
              it does if you "unlock" the carrier

              ETA Jailbreaking is legal for enhancement of s/w not unlocking the sim
              http://ifixit.org/4114/say-goodbye-to-legal-unlocking/
              Arguing for the sake of it?

              Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
              Last edited by 2shotjoe; 01-26-2013, 2:16 AM.
              Originally posted by Kestryll
              ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
              Originally posted by Libertarian777
              ...Don't pick either side....

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              • #8
                Jeepers
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3415

                Originally posted by bloodhawke83
                Arguing for the sake of it?

                Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
                naaa i am a friendly drunk

                maybe i am misreading it ,not arguing as i said i dont even own a cell phone so dont know squat about "jailbreaking" other then it gains "root" for software enhancment , but the way i read it is you can not unlock the carrier even with jailbreaking and stay within the DMCA
                Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
                Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.

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                • #9
                  2shotjoe
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 26474

                  Originally posted by Jeepers
                  naaa i am a friendly drunk

                  maybe i am misreading it ,not arguing as i said i dont even own a cell phone so dont know squat about "jailbreaking" other then it gains "root" for software enhancment , but the way i read it is you can not unlock the carrier even with jailbreaking and stay within the DMCA
                  It's locked by the sim card/chip. Rooting just replaces the os.

                  Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
                  Originally posted by Kestryll
                  ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
                  Originally posted by Libertarian777
                  ...Don't pick either side....

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                  • #10
                    Jeepers
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3415

                    Originally posted by bloodhawke83
                    It's locked by the sim card/chip. Rooting just replaces the os.

                    Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
                    so jailbreaking does not mod the firmware to unlock the sim ?
                    if so, i understand why its still legal and has nothing to do with this new changes to the DMCA and unlocking legally owned phones without permission from the orig carrier
                    Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
                    Before I refuse to take your questions, I have an opening statement.

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                    • #11
                      Ryououki
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 505

                      Originally posted by bloodhawke83
                      It's locked by the sim card/chip. Rooting just replaces the os.

                      Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
                      Rooting actually only gives you root access. It doesn't modify the OS. Installing a different ROM could replace the OS.

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                      • #12
                        keenkeen
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2011
                        • 6782

                        What about "found" unlocked phones?
                        "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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                        • #13
                          mofojoe
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 853

                          Oh noooooooo cell phone police now!!!!!!!

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                          • #14
                            2shotjoe
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 26474

                            Originally posted by Jeepers
                            so jailbreaking does not mod the firmware to unlock the sim ?
                            if so, i understand why its still legal and has nothing to do with this new changes to the DMCA and unlocking legally owned phones without permission from the orig carrier
                            Nope, my phone is rooted and sim still lock.

                            Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk 2
                            Originally posted by Kestryll
                            ..you're kind of a sad excuse for an attorney...
                            Originally posted by Libertarian777
                            ...Don't pick either side....

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                            • #15
                              dieselpower
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 11471

                              its the same as record labels crying about downloading... this too will pass when they figure out there is no way to police it.

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